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How to reach a grand here?


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If you don't play Last Train, you should consider doing so. Makes slam exploration a lot easier.

I play invitational cuebids in much more situations than others, you can call them last train if you wish, here you could call 4 as "Last train with void".

 

Having a last train bid ambiguous towards a key feature of the hand such as having 1 or 0 hearts doesn't looks suboptimal to me, but on any case, if your partner is sure about this meaning, a firm agreement is always better than a neboulous theorically better one.

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Yet another wonderful auction where the opp never bid at fav vul.

 

I can only repeat my first post, these auctions are silly, this is a tough hand, not easy.

Well, the "conditions of contest" posed by the OP didn't specify opponent interference.

 

Your point that the opponents will interfere is well taken when the full hand was shown. With the interference, reaching 4 is pretty certain, but reaching slam is less so because the bidding space consumed restricts the exchange of key information needed to bid on. FTR, I'd probably be more likely to take Kaitlyn S's tack and just bid 4 pretty much for the reasons she states.

 

Nonetheless, OP asked about how to bid the two hands given to get to slam. OP indicated they only reached 4 . In effect, OP was asking for a lesson in how to recognize that slam was possible and how to exchange information through bidding to get there. Each of the bidding sequences given by forum members shows potential ways to do that, so may be instructive to OP. One of the big differences between intermediate/advanced players and really top notch players is the ability to visualize when slams are possible and get the exchange of information right so they can be bid. When forum members can shed some light on these processes to a player who is unsure about how to see and bid the slam, it is useful.

 

I don't disagree that bidding these hands are tough even without interference. At the table, I wouldn't expect the bidding sequences to proceed very quickly. Each bid would be need to be digested to understand what is implied by it and how it affects chances for slam. But top players should work their way through and get to at least small slam without interference. Whether they find their way to bid grand is much more a topic for discussion.

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