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3rd set: cherdano-broze 42-2

http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:9076b810.8d9f.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1475962714&u=cherdano

 

4th set: cherdano-broze 11-39

http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:8773abe1.8e3b.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1476029700&u=cherdano

 

Overall I won by 23 IMPs, based on a 3rd set where I got extremely lucky due to several dumb bids by broze's GIB won due to my superior partnership skills, keeping my partner happy and engaged.

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antonylee
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I'm already ahead of you :-) http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/75135-bbf-challenge-event-3/page__view__findpost__p__900629 (1-3 against frank0)

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Sorry for oftopic. When I just moved to New York from Russia and got my first job here I had to send email to several people about errors in script I found. Instead of word "erroneous" I typed "eroge

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Well played, Olegru! Congratulations!   And Thank you, Frank0 and ovnclylmz

gordontd

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I lost my match to elwood913 by 26 - 33

http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:0110f0c6.8e4f.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1476038065&u=gordontd

 

Against barmar I seem to have accidentally only put 8 boards in the original invitation so we played it in two parts and the total was 34 - 31 to me.

http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:0affc08b.8e4f.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1476038081&u=gordontd

http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:c7461399.8ec2.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1476087789&u=gordontd

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>> FOR PEOPLE WHO DIDNOT MAKE IT TO THE KNOCKOUT PHASE, PLEASE RESPOND THIS MESSAGE IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THE CONSOLATION EVENT..

1) The full details (length etc.) will be decided based on the number of entrants.

2) Maximum number of boards you play per week 2 x 16 boards.

3) The system will be a Swiss with some kind of carryover from group matches. Each time, we will announce the next two matches.

4) Players who got knocked out from the Knockout Phase in R16 or QF can join the Consolidation Event if they prefer. They will also get carryover putting them around 50th percentile.

Can you explain what the carryover scores were based on?

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Can you explain what the carryover scores were based on?

 

Hey Gordon,

For carryover:

1) For people who got knocked out in the groups: We give 50% of VPs they collected.

2) People who got knocked out in the R16: After ordering the guys above (only 5 of them registered), we put these guys somewhere between the 3rd and 4th place with some weighted average - so assuming a fluid field, it is 33.33th percentile (from lowest to highest VP).

 

The goal of the consolation is mainly fun, and original plan was to include R16 losers in the later stages of a longer Swiss - however, the re-registration (for consolation) period took a while and the number was lower than our expectation. I believe that it would be unfair to give R16 losers 50% of VPs they collected in the group stage, because they actually played in the KO Stage. 33.33th percentile was kind of random, but it will be the same for QF losers if the tournament is 5-rounds. If only 4 rounds, I think we may need to put them to 50th percentile to give them a shot. (Note: I will only play if the total number is odd to even it up, so I don't have any personal ambition or something doing this:) )

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Hey Gordon,

For carryover:

1) For people who got knocked out in the groups: We give 50% of VPs they collected.

2) People who got knocked out in the R16: After ordering the guys above (only 5 of them registered), we put these guys somewhere between the 3rd and 4th place with some weighted average - so assuming a fluid field, it is 33.33th percentile (from lowest to highest VP).

 

The goal of the consolation is mainly fun, and original plan was to include R16 losers in the later stages of a longer Swiss - however, the re-registration (for consolation) period took a while and the number was lower than our expectation. I believe that it would be unfair to give R16 losers 50% of VPs they collected in the group stage, because they actually played in the KO Stage. 33.33th percentile was kind of random, but it will be the same for QF losers if the tournament is 5-rounds. If only 4 rounds, I think we may need to put them to 50th percentile to give them a shot. (Note: I will only play if the total number is odd to even it up, so I don't have any personal ambition or something doing this:) )

It just strikes me as odd that some of those who qualified for the knockouts should get a smaller carryover than those who didn't. But of course it is for fun and is not a big deal.

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It just strikes me as odd that some of those who qualified for the knockouts should get a smaller carryover than those who didn't. But of course it is for fun and is not a big deal.

 

Umm, maybe my explanation was not clear.

 

Original plan was to start the consolation at the same time with R16. So normally those guys would have played two matches, then people losing in R16 drop in, but worked differently. My observation from ACBL and WBF for the transition from KO to pairs is similar to what I did. People who lose in the group stage start playing Open Pairs Qualification. People who continue in KO and then lose may drop the to Pair event in Semi Final , but they do not start in front of the others - they are placed somewhere in the middle of the pack.

 

Because of the time issue, we started the consolation little bit late, and it was convenient to include R16 losers. However, it would be unfair to people in the Swiss if they tried their chance in KO and also start from the top of the Swiss.

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Consolation

 

Match 3

antonylee-frank0

mkgnao-m1cha

elwood913-ovncylmz

zebutin-smerriman

cherdano-gordontd

barmar-stoppiello

 

Match 4

antonylee-m1cha

frank0-elwood913

mkgnao-ovncylmz

zebutin-cherdano

smerriman-barmar

gordontd-stoppiello

 

All four losers in Quarter Final dropped in as the 33th percentile - from the bottom (between 5th and 6th places out 8 players).

 

We have time until Sunday 7PM NYC time to wrap this 2 x 12 boards up. Then we will have a 5th and final round based on the new standings.

 

Good luck to everybody!

 

Cheers

 

p.s. smerriman and cherdano, please do your best at least accepting your game vs. zebutin before Friday so he can play (he is gone for the weekend, so worst case scenario you accept by Thursday so he can play early and you can finish even on Sunday)

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