Walddk Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 [hv=d=s&v=e&n=sqj9h8653d876ca43&s=sak1082haqd9542ck6]133|200|Scoring: IMPS: 4SLead: S5[/hv] How do you fancy your chances in the thin 4♠? You opened 1♠, and over your partner's 1NT response, East overcalled 2♣. One minute later you have propelled yourself to a very poor game. West leads a trump, and East follows. Diamonds 3-3 and the heart finesse, right? You are an entry short for a reverse dummy, so forget about that. Any other legitimate chances? Good luck! Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 Win in dummy. Heart finesse. Cash Ace. K♣, A♣, heart ruff. Spade to dummy, club ruff high. Exit diamond. Hoping East has 2325 shape and AK stiff diamonds. Is that a legitimate hope? Else you can hope that East has AQ or AJ and there is a defensive slip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 i must be seeing something wrong here... win the spade, lead a diamond.. win the return (if club, take the king), lead a diamond... win return (if another club, win in dummy and take heart finesse), lead a diamond... draw trumps and claim.. isn't that 5 spades, 2 hearts, 1 diamond and 2 clubs? can't be that simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 isn't that 5 spades, 2 hearts, 1 diamond and 2 clubs? can't be that simple Do diamonds always break 3-3 for you? :) Because if they are not, how are you going to get a diamond trick? Ruff your last diamond if they break 4-2? No good. Remember that a trump was led, and they will continue trumps every time you lead a diamond. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 sorry, i thought it was given in the problem that diamonds were 3/3... musta misread it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdulmage Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Win in dummy. Heart finesse. Cash Ace. K♣, A♣, heart ruff. Spade to dummy, club ruff high. Exit diamond. Hoping East has 2325 shape and AK stiff diamonds. Is that a legitimate hope? Else you can hope that East has AQ or AJ and there is a defensive slip. I like this the best - stripping your hand of hearts and getting the clubs out of there, not only are they kinda end played from playing hearts or clubs, they will have to break the diamond suit, hope to hell there is a misdefence and heart hook is on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 People seem to have problems with solving this one. Let me help a little then. Diamonds were 4-2 (4 with West), and it's quite likely that they are, especially when East is known to have club length, probably 6 cards. Is this enough for you to see the light? Not easy, I admit, but declarer actually made it at the table (the heart finesse must of course be on). Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 2H, 2C and 6 trumps. Straight forward dummy reversal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 2H, 2C and 6 trumps. Straight forward dummy reversal. And where are all your entries??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 One entry short for that Free, unless you exit a D in the end position and can make your last 2 trumps separately- seems remote chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Plug away threatening a diamond ruff, they have to exit trumps, after next trump exit, take heart hook (it will win), then plug away at diamonds again. There most likely squeeze is delayed duck in diamonds and and clubs on EAST because of lack of entry condition for H/D squeeze on WEST. But this requiers EAST to be 1-2-4-6. Seems against the odds. Don't answer it yet, I will look later today. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Plug away threatening a diamond ruff, they have to exit trumps, after next trump exit, take heart hook (it will win), then plug away at diamonds again. There most likely squeeze is delayed duck in diamonds and and clubs on EAST because of lack of entry condition for H/D squeeze on WEST. But this requiers EAST to be 1-2-4-6. Seems against the odds. Don't answer it yet, I will look later today. Ben I think it's impossible after the ♠ lead, since you can't rectify the count before starting the squeeze, unless it's some kind of stepping stone thingy... The only hope imo is that you can play some ♦s and they can't take your last trump away just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Plug away threatening a diamond ruff, they have to exit trumps, after next trump exit, take heart hook (it will win), then plug away at diamonds again. There most likely squeeze is delayed duck in diamonds and and clubs on EAST because of lack of entry condition for H/D squeeze on WEST. But this requiers EAST to be 1-2-4-6. Seems against the odds. Don't answer it yet, I will look later today. Ben I think it's impossible after the ♠ lead, since you can't rectify the count before starting the squeeze, unless it's some kind of stepping stone thingy... The only hope imo is that you can play some ♦s and they can't take your last trump away just yet. Impossible? No. This is a CLE delayed duck squeeze. Give EAST x Kx AKJT QJTxxx and they can't stop me (WEST has no second entry to play thrid trump). So give EAST KT9x of diamond, West AQ. Win spade, ♦, West wins, another ♦, win in dummy, heart hook, push diamond. West wins, must push another trump or I ruff a diamond after all. This is the ending... [hv=n=shxxdcaxx&w=shxxxdcxx&e=shdktcqjt&s=sahd8xckx]399|300|[/hv] Cash spade, what is East to play. IF club, you have your 10th trick. If ♦, you duck a ♦ to establish the 13th diamond in your hand while you have a club entry. But again, this line requires very specific hand pattern on EAST. There maybe a better line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 But again, this line requires very specific hand pattern on EAST. There maybe a better line. Very impressive analysis Ben, but as you point out: there may be a better line. There is, even a much simpler one. Let me know when you want me to reveal it. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 If west is 3-4-4-2 (likely given the 2♣ overcall) then take the lead in dummy, ♥ finesse, cash ♥ace, K♣, ♣ to ace to come to this position : [hv=n=sqjhxxdxxxcx&w=sxxhjxdaqjxc&e=sxhkdtxcqjxx&s=sakt2hdxxxxc]399|300|[/hv] Now ruff a ♣ with ace(or king)♠ ans west is squeezed ! if he discards a ♥ you will establish one ♥ in dummyif he discards a ♦, your 4th diamond will be goodif he under-ruffs, you will be able to ruff your last ♦ in dummy ! So now, play a ♦ and you are home ! This line of course works also when ♦ are 3-3 Alain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 If west is 3-4-4-2 (likely given the 2♣ overcall) then take the lead in dummy, ♥ finesse, cash ♥ace, K♣, ♣ to ace to come to this position : Dealer: ????? Vul: ???? Scoring: Unknown ♠ QJ ♥ xx ♦ xxx ♣ x ♠ xx ♥ Jx ♦ AQJx ♣ [space] ♠ x ♥ K ♦ Tx ♣ QJxx ♠ AKT2 ♥ [space] ♦ xxxx ♣ [space] Now ruff a ♣ with ace(or king)♠ ans west is squeezed ! if he discards a ♥ you will establish one ♥ in dummyif he discards a ♦, your 4th diamond will be goodif he under-ruffs, you will be able to ruff your last ♦ in dummy ! So now, play a ♦ and you are home ! This line of course works also when ♦ are 3-3 Alain Billiant Alain! A squeeze in 3 suits, including the trump suit. That doesn't happen often. Clubs 2-6 is the assumption, and that looks like a good chance given the overcall. In fact, finding West with a 3-4-4-2 shape isn't that far away at all, is it? West's hand in real life was: xxxJ10xxQxxxxx Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Let me help a little then. Diamonds were 4-2 (4 with West), and it's quite likely that they are, especially when East is known to have club length, probably 6 cards. Well, I must admit that your little help helped me a lot ! ;) and that I probably wouldn't have found it at the table :( Alain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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