Phil Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 That would be too strict. My first challenge invite to broze timed out, should I have considered that a win by default? Was obvious he hadn't logged on or seen it at all, and we had enough time left to play two sets. I think if you invite someone and post on here, it's been deemed declined. A single round should not take two weeks. Look, if you sign up to play, then watch the boards and look out for your invites. However, it's reasonable for two players to agree to play on a date after the challenge too. We all have lives outside of bridge // there might be a real life tourney going on. I for one have two regionals the next two weekends and will not want to play after the session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovncylmz Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Okay.. Ovncylmz-Vampyr, first set 47-0, second set 11-2. Links:http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:7a002d9e.6865.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1471869572&u=ovncylmzhttp://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:6fe4d27e.6ccd.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1472354028&u=ovncylmz Thanks Vampyr! Good 2nd set, I was lucky in the first set. I agree with Phil that we should be faster and I believe we will be faster with the 2nd round. I suggest a bracket based on the first round results. Top-8 (based on differences) will be placed 1 to 8 spots in a regular bracket and 9-12 will be randomized to 1-4 and 13-16 will be randomized to 5-8. What do you guys think?Ovunc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted August 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Yep, sorry for the lack of foresight here. I hadn't wanted to impose a strict deadline for reasons similar to what diana_eva and Phil mentioned above, but had assumed players would be able to at least make contact via the forum if they'd be temporarily unavailable rather than disappear entirely. Things don't work out like that in real life! For the second round let's make it a strict 1 week time limit - though it's likely to be a lot quicker regardless. If you know you might be away from BBO long enough to miss a 3 day challenge window, let your opponent know. If a challenge expires, the onus is on the person who did not accept to complete two matches within the week - or they will forfeit. If you can't manage to fit in two challenges in a week, this probably isn't something you should have entered. Will allow olegru + gordontd another day to complete their match - otherwise, for the purposes of getting the second round up and running quickly, I'll give the benefit of the doubt to olegru due to the large margin in the first round. ovnclymz - will just keep the draw as mentioned originally rather than change things now - that's a possibility for later events, but the difference is pretty minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank0 Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Anyone heard anything from phoenix214 and nekthen ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted August 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Anyone heard anything from phoenix214 and nekthen ? Oops, meant to say above - as neither has posted anything at all, planning to just drop them out when the olegru + gordontd match is complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olegru Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 olegru - gordontd, the second part. Olegru +8http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:2b8fad74.6e3c.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1472511538&u=olegru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank0 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 olegru - gordontd, the second part. Olegru +8http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:2b8fad74.6e3c.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1472511538&u=olegru gordontd vs olegru(+46)dadim(+37) vs MrAceovncylmz(+56) vs Vampyrnullve(+10) vs frank0eagles123 vs Wackojack(+14)diana_eva vs broze(+21)shyams vs Phil(+77)hrothgar (+16) vs barmarsmerriman vs jeffford76(+22)phoenix214 vs nekthenmanudude03 vs zebutin(+27) If we drop the 2 inactive players seeding next round will be 1. Phil2. ovncylmz3. olegru4. dadim5. zebutin6. jeffford767. broze8. hrothgar9. Wackojack10. nullve11. frank012. eagles12313. barmar14. diana_eva15. smerriman16. manudude03 This is not official, let's wait for whoever organizing this event to announce the pairing next round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted August 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 My results tally with yours. Round 2: Phil vs manudude03ovncylmz vs smerrimanolegru vs diana_evadadim vs barmarzebutin vs eagles123 jeffford76 vs frank0broze vs nullvehrothgar vs wackojack Results should be in within 7 days from now, which is, in your time zone: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20160907T13&p1=22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovncylmz Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Ovncylmz-Smerriman:First set: 10-15Second set: 53-3Total: 63-18 (+45) http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:93c7a2e4.6f10.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1472602767&u=ovncylmzhttp://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:4f3f2423.6f2f.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1472615966&u=ovncylmz To be honest, I was pretty disappointed with my performance in this match and I was expecting to lose by little after the second set. I was surprised when I saw +50. Then, I saw that GIBs were not nice to my opponent as they were to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olegru Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:4f3f2423.6f2f.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1472615966&u=ovncylmzTo be honest, I was pretty disappointed with my performance in this match and I was expecting to lose by little after the second set. I was surprised when I saw +50. Then, I saw that GIBs were not nice to my opponent as they were to me. Board 13 is funny. Why declarer GIB was able to get distribution right after top of the nothing lead to unrelated suit, but misguessed after 4th best lead to the same unrelated suit is a mystery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank0 Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Frist Sethttp://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:21b5390c.6f15.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1472604723&u=frank0Second Sethttp://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:05a0a184.6fd5.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1472687139&u=frank0 I lost by 17IMP. Good luck for jeffford76 on the next round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Just back from Eastbourne. I seem to have lost to Dadim by default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Just back from Eastbourne. I seem to have lost to Dadim by default.And I lost to him for real, big time. He crushed me by 81 IMPs. http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:330e548a.6f7a.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1472648131http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:ab4552e1.6fa5.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1472666801 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebutin Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 I played against eagles123 1st set:http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:2fc73140.6f1b.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1472607323&u=zebutin eagles123 conceded the 2nd set so it wasn't played, giving me the win. Most interesting deal to me was #4 when partner opened 2nt and I had 7xx Q107x Jxx J8x in hand. We were vulnerable so bidding to full game feels tempting, on the other hand most likely jack thirds don't pull their full weight and even less so in trump contract. In my eyes hand was basically xxx Q10xx xxx xxx for possible heart contract, so was contemplating between pass and 3nt. This time passed (and robots didn't defend to maximum) to gain small swing, but could see losing a lot on the deal too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovncylmz Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 I played against eagles123 1st set:http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:2fc73140.6f1b.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1472607323&u=zebutin eagles123 conceded the 2nd set so it wasn't played, giving me the win. Most interesting deal to me was #4 when partner opened 2nt and I had 7xx Q107x Jxx J8x in hand. We were vulnerable so bidding to full game feels tempting, on the other hand most likely jack thirds don't pull their full weight and even less so in trump contract. In my eyes hand was basically xxx Q10xx xxx xxx for possible heart contract, so was contemplating between pass and 3nt. This time passed (and robots didn't defend to maximum) to gain small swing, but could see losing a lot on the deal too. I think he should play even if it is irrelevant for him at this point, because the differential is important in seedings. Not making a bracket is a bad idea because of such reasons, now we have to figure out an adjustment for the second set to seed zebutin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 I think he should play even if it is irrelevant for him at this point, because the differential is important in seedings. Not making a bracket is a bad idea because of such reasons, now we have to figure out an adjustment for the second set to seed zebutin. ok good point, i will play 2nd set :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 I played against eagles123 1st set:http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:2fc73140.6f1b.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1472607323&u=zebutin eagles123 conceded the 2nd set so it wasn't played, giving me the win. Most interesting deal to me was #4 when partner opened 2nt and I had 7xx Q107x Jxx J8x in hand. We were vulnerable so bidding to full game feels tempting, on the other hand most likely jack thirds don't pull their full weight and even less so in trump contract. In my eyes hand was basically xxx Q10xx xxx xxx for possible heart contract, so was contemplating between pass and 3nt. This time passed (and robots didn't defend to maximum) to gain small swing, but could see losing a lot on the deal too. Well done you thoroughly trounced me, I made some incredibly dumb plays, my only gripe is when bot screwed me by passing 5n :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovncylmz Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Well done you thoroughly trounced me, I made some incredibly dumb plays, my only gripe is when bot screwed me by passing 5n :D Thanks mate:) Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovncylmz Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 what do u guys think about 48 boards for QF and SF and 64 boards for final? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Whackojacko is up by 2 after our first 16 boards http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:b9a6b49a.6f69.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1472641055&u=hrothgar The biggest swing of the session occured on a hand where I made a conservative pass and Wacko choose to invite, racking up a nice +10 IMPs http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn|hrothgar,Robot,Robot,Robot|st||md|2SKJ7532H75DT86CA2,S8HJ3DAQJ9CT98743,SA964HAKT98D753CQ,SQTHQ642DK42CKJ65|sv|N|ah|Board%2012|mb|P|mb|1H|an|Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20!H;%2011-21%20HCP;%2012-22%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|1S|an|One%20over%20one%20--%204+%20!S;%206+%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|2S|an|Simple%20raise%20--%205+%20!H;%204%20!S;%2011+%20HCP;%2012-15%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|P|mb|P|pc|DA|pc|D3|pc|D4|pc|D6|pc|DQ|pc|D5|pc|D2|pc|D8|pc|D9|pc|D7|pc|DK|pc|DT|pc|CK|pc|CA|pc|CT|pc|CQ|pc|S2|pc|S8|pc|SA|pc|ST|pc|S4|pc|SQ|pc|SK|pc|C9|mc|10| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted September 1, 2016 Report Share Posted September 1, 2016 Whackojacko is up by 4 after our first 16 boards http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:b9a6b49a.6f69.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1472641055&u=hrothgar The biggest swing of the session occured on a hand where I made a conservative pass and Wacko choose to invite, racking up a nice +10 IMPs http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn|hrothgar,Robot,Robot,Robot|st||md|2SKJ7532H75DT86CA2,S8HJ3DAQJ9CT98743,SA964HAKT98D753CQ,SQTHQ642DK42CKJ65|sv|N|ah|Board%2012|mb|P|mb|1H|an|Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20!H;%2011-21%20HCP;%2012-22%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|1S|an|One%20over%20one%20--%204+%20!S;%206+%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|2S|an|Simple%20raise%20--%205+%20!H;%204%20!S;%2011+%20HCP;%2012-15%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|P|mb|P|pc|DA|pc|D3|pc|D4|pc|D6|pc|DQ|pc|D5|pc|D2|pc|D8|pc|D9|pc|D7|pc|DK|pc|DT|pc|CK|pc|CA|pc|CT|pc|CQ|pc|S2|pc|S8|pc|SA|pc|ST|pc|S4|pc|SQ|pc|SK|pc|C9|mc|10| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 I think he should play even if it is irrelevant for him at this point, because the differential is important in seedings. Not making a bracket is a bad idea because of such reasons, now we have to figure out an adjustment for the second set to seed zebutin. I do not think it is reasonable to have a policy that a contestant must play when he has no further interest in the event. And comparing the size of the differential is meaningless anyway since the boards are not the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olegru Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 olegru vs diana_eva1st set 16 for diana_eva http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:ee4a66c5.6f22.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1472610649&u=olegru 2st set 0 http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/tview.php?t=ARDCHALLENGE:0be26f60.6fe4.11e6.8e99.0cc47a39aeb4-1472693592&u=olegru diana_eva won by 16. Congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank0 Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Yep, sorry for the lack of foresight here. I hadn't wanted to impose a strict deadline for reasons similar to what diana_eva and Phil mentioned above, but had assumed players would be able to at least make contact via the forum if they'd be temporarily unavailable rather than disappear entirely. Things don't work out like that in real life!For the second round let's make it a strict 1 week time limit - though it's likely to be a lot quicker regardless. If you know you might be away from BBO long enough to miss a 3 day challenge window, let your opponent know. If a challenge expires, the onus is on the person who did not accept to complete two matches within the week - or they will forfeit. If you can't manage to fit in two challenges in a week, this probably isn't something you should have entered.Will allow olegru + gordontd another day to complete their match - otherwise, for the purposes of getting the second round up and running quickly, I'll give the benefit of the doubt to olegru due to the large margin in the first round.ovnclymz - will just keep the draw as mentioned originally rather than change things now - that's a possibility for later events, but the difference is pretty minor. I think he should play even if it is irrelevant for him at this point, because the differential is important in seedings. Not making a bracket is a bad idea because of such reasons, now we have to figure out an adjustment for the second set to seed zebutin. ok good point, i will play 2nd set :) what do u guys think about 48 boards for QF and SF and 64 boards for final? I do not think it is reasonable to have a policy that a contestant must play when he has no further interest in the event.And comparing the size of the differential is meaningless anyway since the boards are not the same.I create another thread to discuss the format of future events, from now on let's keep this place only for results reporting and hands discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank0 Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Partial Results so far Phil vs manudude03ovncylmz(+45) vs smerrimanolegru vs diana_eva(+16)dadim(+81) vs barmarzebutin(+65, not complete) vs eagles123 jeffford76(+17) vs frank0broze vs nullvehrothgar vs wackojack(+4, not complete) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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