Matchpoints double?

[manudude03]

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MPs scoring, weak field. Double here would be penalty (should it be?), would you make one here?

[helene_t]

Yes I think double should be penalty, or at least penalty-oriented.

 

No, I don't double. -50 and -100 is probably the same and I don't believe it goes two down, especially if I tell them about the trump split.

 

Besides, their auction could be interpreted as invitational, and it would be silly to double 3♥ if we otherwise got the chance to double 4♥.

[steve2005]

Is a Precision 1♠ opening max 15 hcp. Not liking my chances, will wait for 4♥.

[ggwhiz]

The only reason to double is to buy the contract undoubled when partner runs to 3♠.

 

Too narrow a target especially when on my card that isn't even worth a 1nt bid. If it is for you, certainly it's a minimum?

[MrAce]

Too narrow a target especially when on my card that isn't even worth a 1nt bid. If it is for you, certainly it's a minimum?

 

 

1 NT response is good imo. It really may improve the partscore we play, especially if pd bids hearts or clubs. At MP this becomes even more attractive, don't you think?

[MrAce]

Dbl post, deleted.

[Tramticket]

Is it even penalties? We have the meta-agreement that if opponents bid and raise a suit, doubles below game are take-out.

 

Responding to a take-out double is not the same as bidding a suit, but .... - I'm not risking partner interpreting this as take-out.

 

I pass.

[ggwhiz]

1 NT response is good imo. It really may improve the partscore we play, especially if pd bids hearts or clubs. At MP this becomes even more attractive, don't you think?

 

I don't mind it at all but my partnership is allergic to bidding notrump with a stiff or non constructive values and we tend to play imps style at mp's and hope for the best.

 

1nt is a legitimate bid here but is it not a rock bottom minimum?

[MrAce]

I don't mind it at all but my partnership is allergic to bidding notrump with a stiff or non constructive values when we can avoid it.

 

1nt is a legitimate bid here in your style but is it not a rock bottom minimum?

 

Vs 11-15 1♠ it is minimum. Not minimum vs 11-21 1♠ though.

[rmnka447]

Pass.

 

Partner's showing ♠ length which coupled with a stiff ♠ A isn't necessarily good for the defense. You may have a duplication of values which limits the defensive trick potential of the hand.

 

If partner has a minimum, defeating 3 ♥ might be very difficult.

 

Making a penalty double is wishful thinking and may spill the beans about ♥.

 

Best to sit this one out.

[Winstonm]

Pass. It's not clear cut but this kind of double has bit me in the ass more times than I can count. LHO heard my 1NT bid and still raised hearts. My heart trick(s) could easily vaporize.

[The_Badger]

Clear cut pass. The hand is clearly distributional. Declarer will undoubtedly play you for the ♥s, and your partner is under the doubler so any potential minor suit winners he might have could disappear.

 

I'm happier (god knows why?) doubling a game that makes than doubling a part score into game, so will certainly double if they end up in 4♥ (as other commentators have indicated).

 

As for MPs, weak field, well they might be a tad timid bidding game - with all 4 players having bid - I personally feel, but if you get a better than average score by passing, I am happy with that too :)

 

Never be greedy at the bridge table: it usually backfires in the long run.

[The_Badger]

[Duplicated.]

[rhm]

I pass but it is close.

They might well go down 2 and then not doubling could be expensive.

In my experience take-out doubler almost always raises in this position with 4 cards in hearts being not vulnerable.

It looks likely to me that we have 2 heart tricks, 2 spade tricks and at least one trick in the minors.

So the question boils down to, is it more likely they go down 2 or that they will make?

I admit I really don't know but I suspect that the matchpoint winnners would double frequently.

 

Rainer Herrmann

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MPs scoring, weak field. Double here would be penalty (should it be?), would you make one here?

 

After a 1NT bid (and the one here is bare-basement minimum; I would have considered a pass on the first round), a X in this situation is penalty unless you have an agreement otherwise.

 

I don't know why you would want to X, though. If partner just has a pile of spades headed by KQJ and maybe an outside Ace, then the opponents are likely making 3h; where are your tricks? If, on the other hand, partner has minor-suit defensive cards, then you probably aren't making 2S, so there is no need to X 3h.

 

Cheers,

Mike

[cynac]

The only reason to double is to buy the contract undoubled when partner runs to 3♠.

 

Too narrow a target especially when on my card that isn't even worth a 1nt bid. If it is for you, certainly it's a minimum?

Why not worth 1N?