1M 2m

[Phil]

In our current iteration we are playing 1S 2d and 1H 2c as 5+ of the other major and roughly 3-9.

 

Legal? Midchart?

 

Thanks

[johnu]

I would say definitely not GCC legal. The closest exception under Responses and Rebids is

 

3. CONVENTIONAL RESPONSES WHICH GUARANTEE GAME FORCING OR BETTER VALUES. May NOT be part of a relay system.

 

but your bids aren't GF or better.

 

Probably legal under mid chart if these are considered constructive bids.

[rbforster]

Canapé natural if you manage to have 3+ In the bid minor. Otherwise, mid chart.

[Vampyr]

Canapé natural if you manage to have 3+ In the bid minor. Otherwise, mid chart.

 

So if you describe the bid as natural it is legal, while if you disclose what it actually shows, it is not?

[rbforster]

So if you describe the bid as natural it is legal, while if you disclose what it actually shows, it is not?

In practice, yes but that's mostly because the directors don't really understand system regs and just tell you it's not allowed if they haven't heard of it before. Canapé bidding is clearly allowed for opening one bids where you systematically have a longer suit than the one opened. For consistency, this means either a long time natural bidding style is actually illegal, or stuff like opening or responding in your short suit while promising a longer one (this response, some weak 2M openers with 4M/5+m, etc) are allowed as natural under the same interpretation. In practice, nothing is consistent and if you want to play something, you'd do well to describe it in more familiar terms.