5th level, pass or bid on?

[diana_eva]

Indy, IMPs, sayc is the default CC, no agreements, partner is a star though

 

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Pass, bid 5S? Would you have done something else before?

[MrAce]

5♠

 

I do not think we could have done anything before, over 4♥

 

I would not have opened it 2♠ or 1 ♠ if that is what you are asking.

[shyams]

5♠

[Cyberyeti]

Would have opened 1♠, would not surprise me at all to be making 6, AKxxx, 3 random hearts, x, Axxx is all that's required and given that by your methods we passed, partner is not obliged to bid on any old hand. Diamond finesse could easily be right, I'm sorely tempted to bid 6 but not sure if I have the nerve. I might conceivably have seen this coming and opted to do more than 4♠ last time, 5♠ looks pretty secure, so I could bid that (via 4N if I'm confident it's asking aces or directly if I'm not).

[ggwhiz]

Partner thinks they can beat this without a bunch of trump winners and I have these minor suit cards and might have been diving over 4♥ as far as they know.

 

I'm bidding 6♠.

[jogs]

It's always a guessing game. With regular partners is the pass by North forcing? North can have ♥ KQ for the double. Then bidding 5♠ is overruling partner. East's 4♥ bid denied you any bidding room to describe your hand. Pass or 5♠ could be right. I would not bid 6♠.

[wank]

i think there are a lot more hands where p passes 4s with slam on than where we go off in 5 so i think we should do more over 4h.

 

a good question is what we could have done, considering we've got controls in every suit.

 

can we really have a 5S, bid slam with a heart control bid? Kxxxx xx AQxxxx maybe. it depends if you prefer to open or wait to cue with these hands, so i don't think you can bid 5S and be confident it'll be interpreted correctly.

 

4NT? what we would we do with 66 in the minors?

 

maybe a mundane 5C then.

[mike777]

Indy, IMPs, sayc is the default CC, no agreements, partner is a star though

 

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Pass, bid 5S? Would you have done something else before?

 

 

fwiw for starters why did you not open 2s?

 

My answer depends on your answer

[ahydra]

fwiw for starters why did you not open 2s?

 

I'd guess it's something to do with being second in vul and having a 9-high suit...

 

I'd bid 5S, expecting it to make.

 

ahydra

[rmnka447]

I'm bidding 5 ♠.

 

We have at least 11 ♠, so the likelihood of taking any ♠ tricks isn't good. Prospects for making 5 ♠ would seem to be reasonably decent. Partner shouldn't have been too adventurous with a vulnerable overcall over a weak 2 bid opposite a passing partner.

 

Thinking LOTT, there seem to be at least 20 trumps and very possibly 21. So we're unlikely to get rich enough to offset a vulnerable game.

 

I also would not open 1 ♠ or 2 ♠ with this hand in 1st seat vulnerable. I might consider 2 ♠ NV at MPs if I feel it would be tactically the right thing to do.

[alok c]

Now 6♠.Previously 5♠ instead of 4♠.

[Cyberyeti]

i think there are a lot more hands where p passes 4s with slam on than where we go off in 5 so i think we should do more over 4h.

 

a good question is what we could have done, considering we've got controls in every suit.

 

can we really have a 5S, bid slam with a heart control bid? Kxxxx xx AQxxxx maybe. it depends if you prefer to open or wait to cue with these hands, so i don't think you can bid 5S and be confident it'll be interpreted correctly.

 

4NT? what we would we do with 66 in the minors?

 

maybe a mundane 5C then.

 

What's 4N and pull a minor to spades ?

[diana_eva]

Thanks all, just wanted to check whether others think the hand is really good, like I thought.

My impression at the table was that partner was trying to tell me to stop bidding when he doubled. I couldn't, with that hand, of course, but that chilled me about slam perspective a bit.

[wank]

Thanks all, just wanted to check whether others think the hand is really good, like I thought.

My impression at the table was that partner was trying to tell me to stop bidding when he doubled. I couldn't, with that hand, of course, but that chilled me about slam perspective a bit.

 

that applies when you're in a forcing pass. here you're not.

 

yes double could be based on something in hearts, but more likely he's just got a good hand. he'll rarely be able to bid 5S himself.

[The_Badger]

On this hand I am bidding 5♠.

 

However, hindsight is a wonderful thing.

 

It seems automatic to bid 4♠ over 4♥, but would you have bid 4♠ knowing that the opponents are going to compete to 5♥? Perhaps not. A star partner would have understood a bid of 5♦ instead of 4♠.

 

If you're always bidding 5♠ over a X of 5♥, 5♦ is a far more descriptive bid when you have the gut feeling that the opponents are going to sacrifice white vs. red.

 

It is the sort of bid featured in partnership Bidding at Bridge, The contested Auction by Andrew Robson and Oliver Segal.

 

It may go wrong, but it might be exactly the right bid partner needs to bid slam. And yes, I realise you could be missing 2 aces too!

 

But fortune favours the brave.