helene_t Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 (edited) Red vs White, you hold ♠Axx ♥Jx ♦AQxx ♣AQxx.It goesLHO Pd RHO YouPass Pass 2♥* dbl3♥ pass pass pass2♥ was not alerted but according to the CC it should be Muiderberg (Lucas). If you bother to ask they will say it was Muiderberg. What's you lead? (sorry the ten of clubs was a mistake but it doesn't matter that much) Edited April 11, 2005 by helene_t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 I lead a trump.It may occasionaly lose a trump trick, but given LHO's raise, many more times it will reduce ruffing power. If defence needs to reduce ruffs, leading a trump at trick one will allow you to lead another as you gain the lead at the next trick. Moreover, no other clear lead stands out as straightforward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 ♥x Opener has shown 5 hearts and 4+ in a minor. The convention is popular in some parts of Europe, especially the Netherlands and Great Britain. I see no alternative to a trump lead. I do not underlead an ace against a suit contract, and cashing one of the aces will only beat air. All side suits are controlled, so I will get the chance to see what is the right continuation in a minute. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ochinko Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 I agree with the trump lead, but isn't ♥J better than ♥x? Partner could have ♥Qxx. Leading a small trump marks me with one high card in hearts or none, whereas I could have lead ♥J from QJx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 ♥x Opener has shown 5 hearts and 4+ in a minor. The convention is popular in some parts of Europe, especially the Netherlands and Great Britain. I see no alternative to a trump lead. I do not underlead an ace against a suit contract, and cashing one of the aces will only beat air. All side suits are controlled, so I will get the chance to see what is the right continuation in a minute. Roland Also ♥J for me. Roland, Why ♥xIn other suits leading from Qx, Jx, TX i would always lead the top card. Correct? Is that less clear if leading trump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Why ♥xIn other suits leading from Qx, Jx, TX i would always lead the top card. Correct? Is that less clear if leading trump? I don't think anyone has or should have agreements on which card to lead from the trump suit. Sometimes I will lead the jack, sometimes the small card from this holding. The point is that my partner could not care less about how many trumps I have. On the auction I don't think it matters much which card you lead. Anyway, let declarer do his own work and guess if he has a guess. In other situations, later in the play, a trump echo may be needed in order to help partner (can he give you a ruff or not). Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiste1 Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 ♠x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Why ♥xIn other suits leading from Qx, Jx, TX i would always lead the top card. Correct? Is that less clear if leading trump? I don't think anyone has or should have agreements on which card to lead from the trump suit. Sometimes I will lead the jack, sometimes the small card from this holding. The point is that my partner could not care less about how many trumps I have. On the auction I don't think it matters much which card you lead. Anyway, let declarer do his own work and guess if he has a guess. In other situations, later in the play, a trump echo may be needed in order to help partner (can he give you a ruff or not). Roland ... of course! Thanks for the answer Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 I would also lead the ♥J Alain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 ♣Q my hand looks badly placed, i think i'll make him guess quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Low S. H lead is too likely to cost a trick. Pd doesn't have much and lho figures to have some values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Small heart, with small spade a 2nd choice. Both can turn out terribly wrong, though... lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted April 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 I almost decided not to tell what I did at table since it was too pathetic, but anyway .... the ace of spades. Dummy had ♠KT9x, partner Qxxxx and declarer J. A low spade is an interesting suggestion, especially against a declarer who trusts you. Anyway, I suppose a trump lead is safe unless partner has ♥Qxx, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 Anyway, I suppose a trump lead is safe unless partner has ♥Qxx, correct? Or Kx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 do you remember the hands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted April 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 [hv=d=n&n=skt96hakt86d52ct2&w=sa42hj5daq87caq76&e=sq8753h7dt4ck9843&s=sjhq9432dkj963cj5]399|300|Scoring: MP[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 So a heart is just fine. If declarer draws a second round, we will know where partner's king is (if he has any). If South wins the lead in his hand and advances ♠J, we had better be prepared for it. It shouldn't come as a total shock that he will lead a spade next. The worst part, however, is that we have a game on - either 4♠ or 5♣. Why partner didn't come in with 3♠ looking at 5-5 and a singleton heart I don't quite understand. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 I'm not sure that either are the best games in the world to be in, but as you say Roland... I've been in worse. :P As far as the original post, my understanding is that Lucas is "hearts and another", whereas Muiderberg is "hearts and a minor." That might make a big difference as to whether your partner will want to come in on his values. Imagine for example that North had bid the 2♥ instead of South. However, playing against Muiderberg, your focus will tend to be around the other major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 I'm not sure that either are the best games in the world to be in, but as you say Roland... I've been in worse. :P Not sure what you mean. Both 4♠ and 5♣ are great contracts. You can take them both to your bank manager! Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdulmage Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Red vs White, you hold ♠Axx ♥Jx ♦AQxx ♣AQxx.It goesLHO Pd RHO YouPass Pass 2♥* dbl3♥ pass pass pass2♥ was not alerted but according to the CC it should be Muiderberg (Lucas). If you bother to ask they will say it was Muiderberg. What's you lead? (sorry the ten of clubs was a mistake but it doesn't matter that much) Easy, J♥ - man would I love for my partner to have KQx♥, we destroy the A♥, get in again, draw trump with KQ♥ if we know the declarer is preparing to cross ruff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Not sure what you mean. Both 4♠ and 5♣ are great contracts. You can take them both to your bank manager!As the cards lie... they are as cold as the ice hotel in Jukkasjärvi. Just saying you wouldn't necessarily want to be in them if you didn't know the opponents hands. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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