goffster Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 http://tinyurl.com/jtpgnw3 So what's with 3D (alerted as denying 4H)? Why not bid 3H (showing 4 hearts i presume and a 3 suited hand, oops, but that would be telling)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tu Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 It's also rather questionable why it should rebid 2♣ with only 4-4 in the minors rather than simply passing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 http://tinyurl.com/jtpgnw3 So what's with 3D (alerted as denying 4H)? and what's with 1D (alerted as showing an opening bid)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 http://tinyurl.com/jtpgnw3 So what's with 3D (alerted as denying 4H)? Why not bid 3H (showing 4 hearts i presume and a 3 suited hand, oops, but that would be telling)? Good hand and good topic. 1- Obviously Gibs don't know how to handle with this situation after 4th suit.Here there are two best examples.A- When with 1N interference : [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=goffster&s=ST974HAK94DAQ9CK5&wn=Robot&w=SQHT752DKJT7CAQ73&nn=Robot&n=S82H3D65432CT8642&en=Robot&e=SAKJ653HQJ86D8CJ9&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1D(Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20%21D%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P1S(One%20over%20one%20--%204+%20%21S%3B%206+%20total%20points)1N(One%20notrump%20overcall%20--%202-5%20%21C%3B%202-5%20%21D%3B)2C(Opener%20two%20rebid%20--%204+%20%21C%3B%204+%20%21D%3B%202-%20%21S%3B%2011-16%20HCP%3B%2012-18%20total%20points)P2H!(Fourth%20suit%20forcing%20--%204+%20%21S%3B%2012+%20HCP%3B%2013+%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203N)P3D(No%20stoppers%20to%20bid%20--%204+%20%21C%3B%205+%20%21D%3B%203-%20%21H%3B%202-%20%21S%3B%2011-16%20HCP%3B%2012-18%20total%20points%3B%20at%20best%20partial%20stop%20in%20%21H%3B%20forcing%20to%203N)P3H(4+%20%21H%3B%205+%20%21S%3B%2012+%20HCP%3B%204-card%20%21S%3B%2013+%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203N)P4H(4+%20%21C%3B%205+%20%21D%3B%203%20%21H%3B%202-%20%21S%3B%2011-16%20HCP%3B%2012-17%20total%20points%3B%20at%20best%20partial%20stop%20in%20%21H)P4S(4+%20%21H%3B%2012+%20HCP%3B%20strong%20rebiddable%20%21S%3B%2013-15%20total%20points)PPP&p=HKH5H3H6HAH2D2H8H9H7S2HJD3D8DAD7H4HTS8HQD4C9DQDKSQC2S3S4CAC4CJC5C3C6S5CKSAS7C7D6SKS9DTCTSJSTDJD5S6D9CQC8]400|300[/hv] B- When without interference : [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=Robot&s=ST976HAK94DAQ9CK5&wn=Robot&w=SQHT752DKJT7CAQ73&nn=Robot&n=S82H3D65432CT8642&en=Robot&e=SAKJ543HQJ86D8CJ9&d=w&v=o&b=8&a=1D(Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20%21D%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P1S(One%20over%20one%20--%204+%20%21S%3B%206+%20total%20points)P2C(Opener%20two%20rebid%20--%204+%20%21C%3B%204+%20%21D%3B%203-%20%21S%3B%2011-16%20HCP%3B%2012-18%20total%20points)P2H!(Fourth%20suit%20forcing%20--%204+%20%21S%3B%2012+%20HCP%3B%2013+%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203N)P3D(No%20stoppers%20to%20bid%20--%204+%20%21C%3B%205+%20%21D%3B%203-%20%21H%3B%202-%20%21S%3B%2011-16%20HCP%3B%2012-18%20total%20points%3B%20at%20best%20partial%20stop%20in%20%21H%3B%20forcing%20to%203N)P3H(4+%20%21H%3B%205+%20%21S%3B%2012+%20HCP%3B%204-card%20%21S%3B%2013+%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203N)P4H(4+%20%21C%3B%205+%20%21D%3B%203%20%21H%3B%202-%20%21S%3B%2011-16%20HCP%3B%2012-17%20total%20points%3B%20at%20best%20partial%20stop%20in%20%21H)PPP&p=CKCAC2C9H2H3HJHKS6SQS2S4C7CTCJC5S5S7H7S8CQC8D8H4HAH5D2H8H9HTD6H6D7D4HQD9SAS9C3D5SKSTDTC6SJDQDKD3S3DADJC4]400|300[/hv]Result : 4♥E= 2- After 4th suit, here programmers need to improve its bidding rules on Gib CC. [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=lycier&s=ST976HAK94DAQ9CK5&wn=lycier&w=SQHT752DKJT7CAQ73&nn=Robot&n=S82H3D65432CT8642&en=Robot&e=SAKJ543HQJ86D8CJ9&d=w&v=o&b=8&a=1D(Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20%21D%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P1S(One%20over%20one%20--%204+%20%21S%3B%206+%20total%20points)1N(One%20notrump%20overcall%20--%202-5%20%21C%3B%202-5%20%21D%3B%202-5%20%21H%3B%202-5%20%21S%3B%2015-17%20HCP%3B%2018-%20total%20points%3B%20stop%20in%20%21D%3B%20stop%20in%20%21S)2C(Opener%20two%20rebid%20--%204+%20%21C%3B%204+%20%21D%3B%202-%20%21S%3B%2011-16%20HCP%3B%2012-18%20total%20points)P2H!(Fourth%20suit%20forcing%20--%204+%20%21S%3B%2012+%20HCP%3B%2013+%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203N)P3H(4+%20%21C%3B%204+%20%21D%3B%204+%20%21H%3B%202-%20%21S%3B%2011-16%20HCP%3B%2012-18%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203N)P4H(4+%20%21H%3B%205+%20%21S%3B%2012+%20HCP%3B%204-card%20%21S%3B%2013-18%20total%20points)PPP&p=DAD7D2D8D9DJD3S3H2H3HQHKDQDTD5H6S4S6SQS8H7C2HJHAC5C7CTCJSAS7C3S2SKS9CQC8H8H4H5D6C9CKCAC6HTD4S5H9DKC4SJST]400|300[/hv] Note 3♥ says " 4+♣,4+♦,4+♥,2-♠,11-16hcp,12-18TPs,forcing to 3N ".Obviously "4+♥" is impossible, only 4♥.However Gib has no way to rebid 3♥ showing 4-card ♥, in fact there is no related bidding rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted July 20, 2016 Report Share Posted July 20, 2016 It's also rather questionable why it should rebid 2♣ with only 4-4 in the minors rather than simply passing.Yes.However if simply passing, unfortunately a ridicuous matter will happen. [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=lycier&s=ST976HAK94DAQ9CK5&wn=Robot&w=SQHT752DKJT7CAQ73&nn=Robot&n=S82H3D65432CT8642&en=Robot&e=SAKJ543HQJ86D8CJ9&d=w&v=o&b=8&a=1D(Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20%21D%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P1S(One%20over%20one%20--%204+%20%21S%3B%206+%20total%20points)1N(One%20notrump%20overcall%20--%202-5%20%21C%3B%202-5%20%21D%3B%202-5%20%21H%3B%202-5%20%21S%3B%2015-17%20HCP%3B%2018-%20total%20points%3B%20stop%20in%20%21D%3B%20stop%20in%20%21S)PP3S(6+%20%21S%3B%2012+%20HCP%3B%2013+%20total%20points%3B%20forcing)P4S(4+%20%21D%3B%202%20%21S%3B%2011+%20HCP%3B%2012-14%20total%20points)PPP&p=HAH5H3H8HKH2C2H6H9HTS8HJD6D8DAD7H4H7S2HQD3C9DQDKSQD2S3S6CAC4CJC5C3CTS4CKSASTC7C8SKS9DTD5SJS7DJC6S5D9CQD4]400|300[/hv] Note I only help West Gib to pass after 1N interference at the beginning.So I think there is no related bidding rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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