Possible bug-response to splinter

[frank0]

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3♣ is explained as transfer to ♦, 3♥ is explained as shortness but N bid 3N with ♥J7 and 4 cards support in ♦.

[lycier]

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3♣ is explained as transfer to ♦, 3♥ is explained as shortness but N bid 3N with ♥J7 and 4 cards support in ♦.

 

Hi

Good topic.

Now I help to fix your post.

 

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3♣ is explained as transfer to ♦, 3♥ is explained as shortness but N bid 3N with ♥J7 and 4 cards support in ♦.

 

 

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[lycier]

Good topic and good question, I have no idea why no man responds.

Yes, responding 3nt is too worse, its only correct bidding should be to cuebid 3♠ to show ♦ fit. ok?

However the above is only a guess!!! Never be a real option.

Now let me tell you its issues on Gib CC.

 

[hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=Robot&s=SJ9HDKQT9742CAJ72&wn=Robot&w=ST8532H6432DCT943&nn=lycier&n=SAK74HJ7DA853CKQ8&en=Robot&e=SQ6HAKQT985DJ6C65&d=n&v=o&b=1&a=1N(notrump%20opener.%20Could%20have%205M.%20--%202-5%20%21C%3B%202-5%20%21D%3B%202-5%20%21H%3B%202-5%20%21S%3B%2015-17%20HCP%3B%2018-%20total%20points)2C!(Cappelletti%20-%20single%20suited%20--%2014-%20HCP%3B%2010+%20total%20points)3C!(Minor%20transfer%20--%206+%20%21D)P3D(Transfer%20completed%20--%202-5%20%21C%3B%202-5%20%21D%3B%202-5%20%21H%3B%202-5%20%21S%3B%2015-17%20HCP%3B%2018-%20total%20points)P3H!(Splinter%20--%206+%20%21D%3B%201-%20%21H%3B%209+%20HCP%3B%20forcing%20to%203N)P3S(2-5%20%21C%3B%202-5%20%21D%3B%202-5%20%21H%3B%204-5%20%21S%3B%2015-17%20HCP%3B%2018-%20total%20points%3B%20forcing)P3N(6+%20%21D%3B%201-%20%21H%3B%204-%20%21S%3B%2010-17%20HCP)P4D(2-5%20%21C%3B%202-5%20%21D%3B%202-5%20%21H%3B%204-5%20%21S%3B%2015-%20HCP%3B%2017+%20total%20points)P4N(6+%20%21D%3B%201-%20%21H%3B%204-%20%21S%3B%2010-17%20HCP)P5H(Cue%20bid%20--%202-5%20%21C%3B%202-5%20%21D%3B%202-5%20%21H%3B%204-5%20%21S%3B%2015-%20HCP%3B%20no%20%21CA%3B%20%21HA%3B%2017+%20total%20points%3B%20forcing)D(14-%20HCP%3B%20rebiddable%20%21H%3B%20%21HKQ%3B%2010+%20total%20points)6D(6+%20%21D%3B%201-%20%21H%3B%204-%20%21S%3B%2017-%20HCP%3B%2015+%20total%20points)PPP&p=HKDQH2H7D2CTDAD6D3DJDKS2C2C9CKC5CQC6C7C3C8HTCJC4CAS3HJH5S9S5SKS6SASQSJSTD5HADTH6D9H3D8HQD7H4S4H8D4S8S7H9]400|300[/hv]

 

Now you see that 3♠ says " 2-5♣,2-5♦,4-5♠,15-17hcp,18-tps,forcing.", that's to say rebid-3♠ will only show ♠ count instead of first control in ♠. So we can be easy to get conclusion - there is a issue on Gib CC.

 

After 3♥, opener rebid 4♣ is cuebid to show ♣Ace and deny ♠Ace, so you only rebid 4♦ to show ♦ fit, but very difficult to bid up to slam on such Gib CC.

 

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So I think you have no way to probe for ♦ slam for time being on such worse Gib CC.

[lycier]

I also found another issue.

 

[hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&myhand=M-416516819-1458076802]400|300[/hv]

 

4♣= cuebid, ♣Ace,no ♠A, so after 4♣, Gib bidding 6♦ is rediculous in the hand with small doubleton in ♠.

[iandayre]

This is certainly a valid topic. The OP makes its point clearly, I didn't see any need to add a comment. Quite true, bidding 3NT was a hopeless error and 3S was the correct call. I just wish BBO would comment more often, they are the only ones who can correct these problems.

 

Addendum: I think I have further identified the problem here. I have noticed that often when I have opened 1NT and GIB partner later shows a short suit at the 3 level, it often overrides my 3NT call to 5 of a minor without slam interest. I noticed yesterday that the description of 3NT does not include having stopper(s)! No wonder GIB doesn't know what to do from either side of the table.