straube Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 What is better after 1N P P 2D P P dbl Takeout or penalty? Any difference for 1NP P 2H P P dbl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 T/o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperon Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 I can barely think of hands that want to double for penalty after passing 1NT and in front of the bidder. Take-out is a lot more useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 T/O oriented probably on a 7 count or a bad 8 that you declined to raise on. It's important in this auction to let partner (1 NT opener) know that you have the balance of the points. If you want to defend any balancing 2 bid over partner's 1 NT opener in pass out sit, it has to be undoubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 #1 it should be T/O, showing max and 44 in the majors, assuming you play garbage stayman. This hand type should be more frequent that a diamond stack. Having the max., ... responder wont mind if opener passes.#2 similar, even more, since responder basically denied a 5 card heart suit, 4 spades and a 5+ card minor, if you play minor suit xfer, I would also assume that responder does not have a 6 carder, 2 hearts would also be nice, which avoids defending 2Hx, when opener as 4hearts. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 18, 2016 Report Share Posted July 18, 2016 I don't hate this call showing a balanced 7-8 with 2-3 in their suit. If you want to make a takeout bid bid your cheapest four card suit. But undiscussed it's takeout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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