euclidz Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Law 25a Declarer opens 1NT, LHO passes, declarer's partner bids 2♦, his LHO doubles (quickly), Declarer announces (slowly) "transfer to hearts." Declarers partner says "oops sorry, I've pulled out the wrong card I meant to pull out 2♥" (transfer to spades). Does the 'without pause for thought'time period start; 1. After offender bids?2. After his LHO calls (dbl)?3. After he is woken up by declarer's announcement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanst Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 You read too much in 'pause', but 'thought' is the essential element here. Not the moment when nor the manner in which the player discovers his or her unintended call are decisive, but it should be without thought. How you're supposed to find out whether there was a thought, the lawmakers leave to the TD, probably because they don't know how to do that, either. Usually you should be absolutely certain that the call never was considered or that it was a mechanical error. In this case it looks rather probable that the latter is the case, unless the partner has 5+ cards in both majors.Anyway, I would prefer a change of law 25 which prohibits any change of call of unless caused by something accidental, like the cards sticking together, a mispull of a card adjacent to the right one or a insufficient knowledge of the language when bidding verbally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 I had one of these in Penticton (actually a different TD did, but I got asked to rat out my colleague. Funny how that rarely works out...) I was asked to explain what "in the same breath" meant. I said that I didn't know, but that it didn't matter, because that phrase hadn't been in the Laws since 1975. It's now "pause for thought" and that "thought" is the important term; "even going from not thinking to thinking is a change of mind". He wasn't happy, but he was educated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weejonnie Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 Have we considered the possible UI implications from Declarers (slow) 'transfer to hearts'. That suggests this could be making the wrong call, but intending to make it and correction should not be allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 Have we considered the possible UI implications from Declarers (slow) 'transfer to hearts'. That suggests this could be making the wrong call, but intending to make it and correction should not be allowed.no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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