luke warm Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 in this month's bulletin, someone wrote billy miller with a question regarding who should have bid the hearts... his answer was correct but it triggered a question in my mind... when opener can bid 1nt after interference, are ckback or xyz still on? say it goes 1c (1d) 1h (p) 1nt or 1d (p) 1h (1s) 1nt... how do most of you play this? for what it's worth, here are the hands the writer asked about ♠Q♥K952♦KT654♣QJT ♠KJT♥A874♦32♣A852 south dealt, bidding was 1c (p) 1d (1s) 1nt (p) 3nt ... 3nt was down and 4h made, the writer (south) asked who should have mentioned the hearts... playing standard 2/1, north should (he has what used to be called a responsive reverse) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 xyz still on here for me. ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted April 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 good, i was thinking 2 way ckback should still be on also... makes this hand very easy, 2c/2d/ then 2h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Why would it not be on if you've agreed to play it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Suppose in an unopposed auction you were playing two-way checkback so that 2♣ is a puppet to 2♦ (as a sign off in ♦ or invitational hand) and 2♦ is GF. Then I think if the bidding starts eg 1♣ (P) 1♦ (1♠) 1NT, you should alter your structure as you have two new sequences:- the direct cue-bid and the indirect cue-bid (i.e. 2♣ followed by 2♠). What exactly you should play them as is up to you, but it seems sub-optimal not to put them to some use. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 I didn't think checkback would apply here if you play Walsh style since1C 1D denies a 4 card major without game forcing values? Therefore 1C 1D 1NT 2H/S is natural and game forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 North doesn't have GF values so he should start with just 1♥ instead of 1♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted April 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 the way i learned, when responder first bids 1d then 2h (or 2s) after opener's nt rebid, it isn't necessarily game forcing... it shows a good hand, yes, but the example hand definitely falls in that range... with <9/10 hcp, unless the dist was wild, i'd always show the major first (playing walsh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 I follow a simple rule. Every time our side is able to bid 1x 1y ; 1NT (with or without interference), check back is on. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted April 10, 2005 Report Share Posted April 10, 2005 I didn't think checkback would apply here if you play Walsh style since1C 1D denies a 4 card major without game forcing values? Therefore 1C 1D 1NT 2H/S is natural and game forcing.Playing xyz with walsh, there isn't a lot of reason to play the reverse by responder as game forcing. It can easily played as invitational. Even then for us, just about all invitational hands with a 4 card major go through 2♣ first. ♠Ax ♥KQxx ♦Qxxxx ♣xx is bid 1♣ - 1♦ - 1N - 2♣ - 2♦ - 2♥. So, the sequence 1♣ - 1♦ - 1N - 2 major becomes an invitational raise to 2N with a fragment in the suit bid: ♠xxx ♥KQx ♦AQxxx ♣xx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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