helene_t Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 (2♥)-x-(6♥)-pass? I suppose it should be forcing if they bid 5♥ although that could occasionally be exploited. After 4♥ it obviously isn't forcing. What about 7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellSpyder Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 (2♥)-x-(6♥)-pass? I suppose it should be forcing if they bid 5♥ although that could occasionally be exploited. After 4♥ it obviously isn't forcing. What about 7?Personally, I wouldn't expect partner to treat pass as forcing over a raise to 3♥, 4♥, 5♥, 6♥ or 7♥. I'm sure it would be nice on occasion to know that pass was forcing, though.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 (2♥)-x-(6♥)-pass?I suppose it should be forcing if they bid 5♥ although that could occasionally be exploited. After 4♥ it obviously isn't forcing. What about 7? Agree with WellSpyder, IMO, pass is forcing when we have reached game on power, or when we clearly have the balance of the points e.g. after you open at the one-level and partner bids a new suit at the two level orbids 2N (Jacoby) oropponents interfere and partner cue-bids their suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 24, 2016 Report Share Posted May 24, 2016 Not forcing. Pass of 4H and higher would be forcing only if RHO wereally a passed hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjennifer Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Pass means Pass.Where is the question of a forcing pass? .If one has nothing ,one does pass ,No? Or is one supposed to dbl with a Yarbrough ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Pass means Pass.Where is the question of a forcing pass? .If one has nothing ,one does pass ,No? Or is one supposed to dbl with a Yarbrough ? Yes, if pass were forcing that's exactly what partner does with a weak hand - even stronger than a yarb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Not forcing. Pass of 4H and higher would be forcing only if RHO wereally a passed hand. I do not get this. Pass being forcing here or when pd coming from pass sounds very off to me.If 4-5-6 ♥ bidder is coming from pass, so am I. Why on earth would anyone want to force partner over 4 or 5 or 6 ♥? Do I have to double with 3433 etc and 0-5 hcp? Maybe 1♥ opener has a giant. Just because responder is making a weak bid does not mean they are broke. Are you sure on your suggestion Phil? And how can I possibly want this pass to be forcing when I am having hard time to construct a hand that wants to forcing pass but could not find a bid over 4♥? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryggolaf Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Pass might be forcing red vs. white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Maybe 1♥ opener has a giant.Not that it invalidates your post but it would be unusual if the 2♥ opener really had a giant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Not that it invalidates your post but it would be unusual if the 2♥ opener really had a giant. You are right, for some reason I thought opener opened 1♥ when I made that reply. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 I play a forcing pass if the initial double showed 25+ points. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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