A fun bidding problem

[Phil]

2♠.

Thoughtful partner will realise that

I am crazy

 

Fyp

[nige1]

I rank: 6. 4N = UNT? But might be treated as quantitative.

I would love to see the hand that would qualify for this one! :P

This was my 6th choice but I take Zelandakh's point. I confess I didn't realize you're a passed hand :(

 

With a weak 6-6 or 6-7 minor two-suiter I think there's a good case for an unusual 4N, because it's highly pre-emptive and gets the hand off your chest in one bid. So, although this hand is only 6-5, perhaps, I should promote that bid.

[rmnka447]

3 ♦ to start.

[zenbiddist]

This was my 6th choice but I take Zelandakh's point. I confess I didn't realize you're a passed hand :(

 

With a weak 6-6 or 6-7 minor two-suiter I think there's a good case for an unusual 4N, because it's highly pre-emptive and gets the hand of your chest in one bid. So, although this hand is only 6-5, perhaps, I should promote that bid slightly.

 

I settled on 4NT, which I figured an expert would decipher as minors, given my initial pass. It was probably too aggressive, especially NV, but it's not hard to think of hands where 5m makes. Having read the comments I think 3♦ then a choice of games in the minors is probably better, to get to the right strain. People were all over the place when this hand came up, with only 9/20 EWs settling in clubs (the place to be). Pard's hand was

 

♠KJT

♥QJ96

♦A

♣KJ653

[mike777]

I settled on 4NT, which I figured an expert would decipher as minors, given my initial pass. It was probably too aggressive, especially NV, but it's not hard to think of hands where 5m makes. Having read the comments I think 3♦ then a choice of games in the minors is probably better, to get to the right strain. People were all over the place when this hand came up, with only 9/20 EWs settling in clubs (the place to be). Pard's hand was

 

♠KJT

♥QJ96

♦A

♣KJ653

 

 

far far too confusing.....3d as natural and gf much much better...

 

 

 

better still is to open 2d and not pass

[nige1]

far far too confusing.....3d as natural and gf much much better... better still is to open 2d and not pass

Assuming an intelligent partner, who trusts that you're both on the same side and is aware that you're a passed-hand, he should be able to interpret a 4N reply to 1N, correctly. With no relevant agreements, there's more danger that he might treat 3♦ as non-forcing. Although he would probably take the safety-play of keeping the bidding open, just in case you intended it to be forcing.