cherdano Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 I would like to start a thread devoted only to trying to find the best defense against the MisIry transfer preempts. I think once we have settled on one, Ben MIGHT fire up bridgebrowser and tell us how it would work out on actual hands....and I would be curious to see the results. There are already a few suggestion, the first one by hrothgar:http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?sho...indpost&p=61399Direct seat double of 3♦ = Cooperative oriented penalty double of 3♥Direct seat 3♥ Cue bid = "Classic" takeout doubleDirect seat 3♠ = Standard 3 Spade overcall3NT = To play, typically based on a running minor4♣ = Clubs and Spades4♦ = Diamonds and Spades4♥ = Hearts4♠ Good hand with Spades Assume for the moment that I pass... When 3♥ comes back to me... X = Pure penalty double3♠ = Weak takeout of hearts3NT = Both minors4♣ = Single suited with Clubs4♦ = Single suited with Diamonds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted April 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 The next one was suggested by awm: http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?sho...indpost&p=61409Direct seat Pass = either a weak hand, or a strong single suiterDirect seat X = cards, usually balanced around 14/15+ points, promises some cards in the actual bids suit (but Hxx is enough); this encourages partner to make a light takeout double after the transfer is accepted. Direct seat bid (not accept of the xfer) = competitive, not super-strongDirect seat "accept" of transfer = stopper ask, same as 2♥-3♥ for exampleDirect seat 3NT = to play, but serious values (not the hands where you "guess" a 3NT on 16 bal) If direct seat passes, then partner basically bids as if the weak bid was opened. After direct seat X and accept of transfer, partner is encouraged to act with light values. If direct seat passes and transfer accepted, no need to be super-aggressive with takeout shape. In balancing seat after 3♦-P-3♥-P-P or the like: Double = balancing takeout, weakish and good shapeSuit bid = a GOOD hand, forcing to game (otherwise would've bid directly to compete over strong hand possibility) Double then double again is also takeout, but shows sound values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Here is the problem with MisIry. When the hand is strong, the next hand frequently has that suit. Why? Opener is distributional and usually short in the "transfer suit" and never more than 3 cards. So against the normal trnasfer preempt (with no strong option), a cue-bid of the "transfer" suit can not be that suit. Here, I think that it is importnat to have someway to show that YOU hold the transfer suit. Of course, if you have six and opener has six or seven, your bidding will not be a good thing, but such is life. There is also a chance that a lead directing double of the suit opened (showing that suit) is a good thing, both for when you make the dboule and when you don;t. I have been thinking, Pass with a takeout double. The advantage of the pass is that now the weakness of the transfer method is on responder. Should he jump, should complete the tranfer? He has to make a decison. I am thinking I would like the overcall in the tranfer suit to be natural. This natural bid has a lot of risk, but it has chance for instant reward if you have a fit there. If you pass by the time the bidding gets back to you. Opener will have (with strong hand) described distribution and losers. I am for liking double showing the suit doubled, and if it is a minor, it denies interest in the major(s). And I like 4 of a minor as nonjumpiing micheels showing the bid minor and a major. Over 3H, dbl shows hearts, and then you can bid 4C/4D with the two suiter, so 4C is two suiter (minors), and 4D is just long diamonds in this one case. Pass then double normal takeout. Pass and then bid 3H is just hearts. Pass and then bid 3S is just spades. Something like that. Ben Over 3C, I want 3H to be hearts and spades, pass and then bid hearts just hearts. An immediate 3NT is natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_c Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 I like Richard's defense. Against a 3♥ transfer opening, you might be able to convince me that double should show hearts. But against a 3♣ or 3♦ opening I think Richard had it absolutely right. I really don't like the idea of playing the "cue-bid" as natural. You're hoping they have the strong hand, but your bid isn't at all pre-emptive, so all you can hope for is that partner has a fit and can bounce. Meanwhile you've given LHO a free double. So, on those occasions where opener has a strong hand, your bid is a bit like doubling a strong club opening. Whereas, if opener has the weak type, you've handicapped yourself by not having a different meaning for the cue-bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Here is the problem with MisIry. When the hand is strong, the next hand frequently has that suit. Why? Opener is distributional and usually short in the "transfer suit" and never more than 3 cards. So against the normal trnasfer preempt (with no strong option), a cue-bid of the "transfer" suit can not be that suit. Here, I think that it is importnat to have someway to show that YOU hold the transfer suit. Of course, if you have six and opener has six or seven, your bidding will not be a good thing, but such is life. Another difference of opinion... Lets assume that 3♦ opener has the "strong" hand type and denies Hearts.You are correct. Opener's Heart shortage makes it more likely that I have long Hearts. With this said and done, it doesn't mean that I want to show Hearts at the 3 level. A simple one step overcall exposes us to penalty doubles by LHO and doesn't use any useful amount of bidding space. If I'm showing Hearts, I want to be able to do so preemptively with a jump to 4♥to jam your auction when you have the strong hand type. As I noted earlier... I suggest almost ignoring the possibility that opener has the strong hand type. Assume that opener has the weak hand type an focus on ensuring that you have a good constructive structure as well as lots of options for penalty doubles. Once you've devised your structure, go back to an start looking at the conditional probabilities. I suspect that if hold a classic "penalty double" orieinted hand, odds are that opener is sitting on the weak hand type. The most important hand type to check is the "cooperative" penalty double hand that starts with a direct seat double. (This hand type shows sufficient values for a penalty double but lacks the trump stack that one would normally like). As Ben noted, this could backfire if the opponents have a Diamond fit. Partner will need a good runout scheme if he is weak with short Diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Here is the problem with MisIry. When the hand is strong, the next hand frequently has that suit. Why? Opener is distributional and usually short in the "transfer suit" and never more than 3 cards. So against the normal trnasfer preempt (with no strong option), a cue-bid of the "transfer" suit can not be that suit. Here, I think that it is importnat to have someway to show that YOU hold the transfer suit. Of course, if you have six and opener has six or seven, your bidding will not be a good thing, but such is life. Another difference of opinion... Lets assume that 3♦ opener has the "strong" hand type and denies Hearts.You are correct. Opener's Heart shortage makes it more likely that I have long Hearts. With this said and done, it doesn't mean that I want to show Hearts at the 3 level. A simple one step overcall exposes us to penalty doubles by LHO and doesn't use any useful amount of bidding space. If I'm showing Hearts, I want to be able to do so preemptively with a jump to 4♥to jam your auction when you have the strong hand type. As I noted earlier... I suggest almost ignoring the possibility that opener has the strong hand type. Assume that opener has the weak hand type an focus on ensuring that you have a good constructive structure as well as lots of options for penalty doubles. Once you've devised your structure, go back to an start looking at the conditional probabilities. I suspect that if hold a classic "penalty double" orieinted hand, odds are that opener is sitting on the weak hand type. The most important hand type to check is the "cooperative" penalty double hand that starts with a direct seat double. (This hand type shows sufficient values for a penalty double but lacks the trump stack that one would normally like). As Ben noted, this could backfire if the opponents have a Diamond fit. Partner will need a good runout scheme if he is weak with short Diamonds. LEt me give you a recent real world hand...you hold... [hv=d=n&v=n&s=shakt764d43cakqj6]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Ok, you think, ben is going to have you open 3♣ and you find some magic grand slam based. But no. Your partner passes, and the next hand (non-vul), opens 3♦ in front of you, ALERT, MisIry. Tell me how you are going to bid this hand. This is a vugraph hand, by the way. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Tell me how you are going to bid this hand. This is a vugraph hand, by the way. Ben Pass 1st round, then 4NT: 4NT shows a 2 suiter with hearts (a 2 suiter without hearts wd have "cuebid" 3H). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Let me give you a recent real world hand...you hold... <!-- ONEHAND begin --><table border='1'> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td> Dealer: </td> <td> North </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Vul: </td> <td> N/S </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Scoring: </td> <td> IMP </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> <span class='spades'> ♠ </span> </th> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='hearts'> ♥ </span> </th> <td> AKT764 </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='diamonds'> ♦ </span> </th> <td> 43 </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='clubs'> ♣ </span> </th> <td> AKQJ6 </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table><!-- ONEHAND end --> Ok, you think, ben is going to have you open 3♣ and you find some magic grand slam based. But no. Your partner passes, and the next hand (non-vul), opens 3♦ in front of you, ALERT, MisIry. Tell me how you are going to bid this hand. This is a vugraph hand, by the way. Ben I'll start by passing... My hand strongly suggests that the opponents have a two suited hand pattern with Spades and Diamonds. However, if someone if opening a heart suit, I want to be able to smack them with a penalty double. When the auction comes back to me in round, I plan to double any Heart contract for penalties. If the opponents show a pointy 2 suiter, I'll bid NT as takeout. As I noted earlier, I don't tend to worry about freak hands. The don't occur often enough to matter... I'm not saying that its impossible to find real world examples, but they're gonna be rare... If these bids actually occur with any real frequency, it would probably make sense to use bids from 4NT on up to show them directly. You bid is anchored in Diamonds, so there is no need to show them directly. You also can't hold ♦ + ♥, and I can't hold Clubs + Spades, which very much limits the set of hands that I need to show... 5♥ = Both majors, "bad hand"5♦ = Both majors, "good hand"5♣ = Clubs and Hearts, "bad hand"4NT = Clubs and Hearts, "good hand" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Olrud Easter Swiss Teams, Board 79.. Full hand was... [hv=d=s&v=n&n=shakt764d43cakqj6&w=sakjt32hdaq985c43&e=sq5hj53dt72ct8752&s=s98764hq982dkj6c9]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Both sides reached five hearts, making for +650. There are 8 tricks in five spades (six spades and 2D), and if it wasn't for the 5-0 spade split there would be two more tricks in spades. If you pass, you clue EW into the picture. The bidding would be... 3D-P-3H-P3S-4N-P-5H P-P-5S Now it turns out, that you have "rightsided the hand for a potential slam. But on the downside, your last club is never good, so if you ruff both diamonds in dummy, you lose 1C and 1H, unless you run win heart Queen first and then run clubs, playing to ruff 1C and 2D in dummy. But the point being, when they bid 5S here, south will double, and that will be the final contract, as looking at no heart queen, no diamond stopper, north will have to pass. Anyway, this is just the latest example hand (only one from this event) that would be a 3 opener. There were two missing seesions, so this was one out of 80 hands, if anyone is still keeping count. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 It seems like these inferences will be available anyway. Suppose the auction goes something like: Pass - 3♦ - 4♥... Let us suppose for the moment that we have the very lucky agreement that 4♥ shows a strong two-suiter with hearts and clubs. It seems that the opponent in fourth seat, looking at three card hearts, can infer that his partner does not have a weak three bid in hearts. There are simply not enough hearts in the deck for that. It seems almost guaranteed that opener has the strong two suiter in the OTHER two suits (♠ and ♦) based simply on fourth-hand opponents cards and the 4♥ bid. So any action that might be taken (in terms of sacrificing, etc) can be taken anyway. I don't think passing first really costs anything. I'm also not convinced that 5♠ will be bid in the auction you give. These strong two-suited openings can have a pretty wide range of defensive tricks. Holding only TWO card support for spades, there is no particular reason to believe that 5♥ is making, or that 5♠ will be a productive sacrifice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 It seems like these inferences will be available anyway. Suppose the auction goes something like: Pass - 3♦ - 4♥... Let us suppose for the moment that we have the very lucky agreement that 4♥ shows a strong two-suiter with hearts and clubs. It seems that the opponent in fourth seat, looking at three card hearts, can infer that his partner does not have a weak three bid in hearts. There are simply not enough hearts in the deck for that. It seems almost guaranteed that opener has the strong two suiter in the OTHER two suits (♠ and ♦) based simply on fourth-hand opponents cards and the 4♥ bid. So any action that might be taken (in terms of sacrificing, etc) can be taken anyway. I don't think passing first really costs anything. I'm also not convinced that 5♠ will be bid in the auction you give. These strong two-suited openings can have a pretty wide range of defensive tricks. Holding only TWO card support for spades, there is no particular reason to believe that 5♥ is making, or that 5♠ will be a productive sacrifice. Well here is a bid taken away from the defenders then.... If I open a natural 3D, then 4D is a strong cue-bid not wanting to risk a pass.. how do you handle this? hmm... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Well here is a bid taken away from the defenders then.... If I open a natural 3D, then 4D is a strong cue-bid not wanting to risk a pass.. how do you handle this? hmm... . Once again, I can safely ignore the strong hand types... If you open 3♣ showing Diamonds, I simple cuebid 3♦ to show a pure takeout double... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Well here is a bid taken away from the defenders then.... If I open a natural 3D, then 4D is a strong cue-bid not wanting to risk a pass.. how do you handle this? hmm... . Once again, I can safely ignore the strong hand types... If you open 3♣ showing Diamonds, I simple cuebid 3♦ to show a pure takeout double... Then you are worse off than tables where I open 3D and you can double for takeout because one weapon is gone from your bag. And, ask yourself this, if this cue-bid is takeout, and jump to 4 in my transfer suit is whatever others have said, how do you show the monster hand short in my suit that use to be shown by a four level cue-bid to prevent parnter from passing.. I only ask because all these extra options seem to come with some charges of their own.... Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Then you are worse off than tables where I open 3D and you can double for takeout because one weapon is gone from your bag. And, ask yourself this, if this cue-bid is takeout, and jump to 4 in my transfer suit is whatever others have said, how do you show the monster hand short in my suit that use to be shown by a four level cue-bid to prevent parnter from passing.. I only ask because all these extra options seem to come with some charges of their own.... Ben Ben, you're more than welcome to nitpick any specific scheme... And you know what, if you try hard enough, you can certainly find a hand that some other method might handle better. This really shouldn't be any real surprise. There are pluses and minuses to any approach. However, the issue at hand is whether the method has zero flaws, but rather, whether over the long run, the structure performs better or worse than alternative options. I claim that if you open 3♦ to show a 3 level preempt in hearts (plus XYZ strong options) you provide me with more bidding room than you do if you open 3♥ to show a weak 3 level preempt in Hearts. In turn, I can use that bidding room to craft a superior defense. The specifics of that defense are left as an exercise to the reader... I laid out a rough scheme that I think would perform reasonabley well. I don't claim its perfect. (I do claim that it strikes me as MUCH stronger than the defense that you proppsed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted April 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 As I noted earlier... I suggest almost ignoring the possibility that opener has the strong hand type. Assume that opener has the weak hand type an focus on ensuring that you have a good constructive structure as well as lots of options for penalty doubles. I am not sure I agree with this:If opener has the weak hand, the auction will come back to me almost at the same levelThe strong 2 suiters are not that rare.Since their strength is more based on distribution rather than power (I understand there are many 16 hcp hands that would qualify), it could even still be our hand.Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 I think Ben may have missed the point of my reply. Ben previously proposed that over 3♦ (weak hearts or strong 2-suiter w/o hearts) there should be a way to bid hearts naturally. He gave an example hand where the person in direct seat holds a good hand with hearts and clubs. Ron replied that he would pass first and bid later over opener's second call, to which Ben gave an example hand and indicated this would cause a problem. My point was, the supposed "problem" (opening side may now compete/sacrifice in spades over the eventual heart contract) will happen anyway. Even if we have some perfect bid in direct seat that EXACTLY shows our hand (say 4♥ showing hearts and clubs and a good hand) the opening side still can infer the nature of opener's hand (he can't have hearts, there aren't enough in the deck, thus he must have a strong two suiter, and between the 4♥ bid and responder's hand, it can be inferred that he holds the pointed suits). So the same competition/sacrificing will still occur. The upshot is, having this bid to show EXACTLY our hand didn't really help -- we are still not really better off than we would have been by passing at first chance. So there's not much point to 4♥ showing hearts and clubs. Instead we can use this bid as we would over a 3♥ preempt (I prefer it to show a ♠ and a minor with a strong hand in this auction). Basically what we have lost is the ability to bid hearts below the four level (we can pass and bid 4♥ over opener's presumed correction). But in exchange we gain a wide variety of methods for penalizing opponents and/or asking for stoppers -- basically we get huge wins over the weak hand. As another point, with the hand given we can pass 3♦ and then double opener's rebid -- seems like this should almost surely show the other two suits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Ben, how come I never have the kind of hands you show, e.g. 3 loser 55ers? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Ben, how come I never have the kind of hands you show, e.g. 3 loser 55ers? :PI am talking about 4 losers or less, not 3 losers exactlyl. I guess because you have selected memory... here are just three of a group i found where you were at the table... ========================================C:\BRBR\whereagles.04.IMP-882.1.txtProduced by BRidgeBRowser on 4/8/2005========================================IMP-882 RCAG Dlr: North Board 1 S Vul: None H AKJT75 rezak D K9 O Borg S T632 C AQ754 S KJ98 H 92 H Q4 D AQT62 whereagles D J8753 C J9 S AQ754 C 62 H 863 D 4 C KT83 East South West North rezak RCAG O Borg whereagles 2S! Pass 3D! Pass 4H Pass 6H Pass Pass Pass 1. weak 5+ cards 2. herats... Opening lead: DA Result: Down 1Score: -50 1 East DA, 9, 5, 4 2 East C9, 4, 2, T 3 North H3, 2, A, 4 4 South DK, 3, H6, D2 5 North H8, 9, T, Q ======================================= # Contr Ld Decl Tr Score Pts ======================================= 1 6HX S D3 fiemme2 12 1210 10.14 2 6H S S9 helri 13 1010 7.43 3 6H S C2 melofan 13 1010 7.43 4 6H S C6 baycal 13 1010 7.43 5 6H S HQ sadik34 13 1010 7.43 6 6H S D3 ozcan53 12 980 6.93 7 6H S D3 halaw 12 980 6.93 8 6H S D7 moxie_99 12 980 6.93 9 6H S D5 bleu 12 980 6.93 10 6H S DJ iloo 12 980 6.93 11 6H S D3 linus_ 12 980 6.93 12 6H S D5 hhirsche 12 980 6.93 13 6H S D3 howi1111 12 980 6.93 14 6H S D5 1950Roman12 980 6.93 15 6H S D5 yilyu 12 980 6.93 16 6H S D3 farecik 12 980 6.93 17 6H S D8 kural34 12 980 6.93 18 6H S D7 ioana 12 980 6.93 19 6H S D3 MBA5 12 980 6.93 20 6H S D3 jeno 12 980 6.93 21 6H S S8 JaniceA4 12 980 6.93 22 6H S D3 ismaeel 12 980 6.93 23 6H S D3 coretje 12 980 6.93 24 6H S D5 abel42 12 980 6.93 25 6H S D8 cetin48 12 980 6.93 26 6H S D3 kriener 12 980 6.93 27 6H S D7 dayka 12 980 6.93 28 6H S D3 mdayanikl12 980 6.93 29 6C S C6 veronel 13 940 6.14 30 6C S C6 proff 13 940 6.14 31 6C S S9 scudo 13 940 6.14 32 6C S D3 kuzumahmu12 920 5.64 33 6C S D8 nikita4 12 920 5.64 34 6C N H9 berrakk 12 920 5.64 35 6C S D5 Halil01 12 920 5.64 36 6C S SJ kofana 12 920 5.64 37 4H S C6 borisb 13 510 -2.22 38 4H S C6 fatihakca13 510 -2.22 39 4H S SJ gechev 13 510 -2.22 40 4H S SK martens 13 510 -2.22 41 4H S C6 madil33 13 510 -2.22 42 4H S C6 powell44i13 510 -2.22 43 4H S S8 gypsyquee13 510 -2.22 44 4H S D5 oray 12 480 -3.02 45 4H S D5 kikitata 12 480 -3.02 46 4H S D3 brg23 12 480 -3.02 47 4H S C6 tedouble 12 480 -3.02 48 4H S D5 Asig5 12 480 -3.02 49 4H S D5 gwarwick 12 480 -3.02 50 4H S D3 audither 12 480 -3.02 51 4H S D3 niuentri 12 480 -3.02 52 4H S D3 anablum 12 480 -3.02 53 4H S D5 ibinwid 12 480 -3.02 54 4H S D3 LCJ 12 480 -3.02 55 4H S D8 ADYS 12 480 -3.02 56 4H S D3 ilkdefa1 12 480 -3.02 57 4H S D5 7bezatu 12 480 -3.02 58 4H S C6 ivaringe 12 480 -3.02 59 4H S D5 ylamylam 12 480 -3.02 60 5H S D3 cetsa 12 480 -3.02 61 5H S D3 JozekM66 12 480 -3.02 62 5H S D3 arhavili 12 480 -3.02 63 4H S D3 zuninu 12 480 -3.02 64 4H S D8 milesdav 12 480 -3.02 65 4H S C2 GioZ 12 480 -3.02 66 4H S D5 Cascavel 12 480 -3.02 67 4H S DJ svedi1 12 480 -3.02 68 4H S D8 K_Nibale 11 450 -3.49 69 4H S D3 Pieprz 11 450 -3.49 70 4H S D3 petita 11 450 -3.49 71 4H S D3 agunduz 11 450 -3.49 72 4H S D7 s2000us 11 450 -3.49 73 4H S D5 pirracas 11 450 -3.49 74 4H S D3 pzk 11 450 -3.49 75 4H S C6 sedos 11 450 -3.49 76 5C N H9 lalou 13 440 -3.64 77 2H S D7 NellBB 12 230 -7.26 78 2C S D7 satana00 12 170 -7.99 79 7C S DJ kapeti08 12 -50 -10.95 80 6C S D5 blue_sea411 -50 -10.95 81 7C S D7 kikkos73 12 -50 -10.95 82 6H N DA whereagle11 -50 -10.95 83 6H S D7 sabribill11 -50 -10.95 84 6H S D5 plexus 11 -50 -10.95 85 6H S D3 JNSTAUB 11 -50 -10.95 86 6H S D5 KOMIKCI 11 -50 -10.95 87 6H S D3 suti 11 -50 -10.95 88 6S N DA bristabili8 -200 -12.37 ======================================= This one, 4S is more than enough. ========================================C:\BRBR\whereagles.04.IMP-27.8.txtProduced by BRidgeBRowser on 4/8/2005========================================IMP-27 RCAG Dlr: West Board 8 S KT743 Vul: None H 65 kika D mery S 5 C AKQT52 S AQJ8 H KJT H Q43 D A876 whereagles D QT32 C J7643 S 962 C 98 H A9872 D KJ954 C South West North East kika RCAG mery whereagles 1S Pass 2H! Pass 3C Pass 4S Pass 4NT Pass 5C! Pass 5D Dbl 5S Pass Pass Pass 1. oops.. i bid 2H. meant to bid 3H 2. SelfAlert Opening lead: C9 Result: Down 1Score: -50 1 North C9, H2, CJ, CA 2 West CK, 8, H7, C3 3 West CQ, SJ, H8, C4 4 North D2, K, A, S3 5 West CT, SQ, H9, C6 6 North DQ, 4, 6, S4 7 West C2, D3, S2, C7 8 East DJ, 8, H5, DT 9 East S9, 5, 7, A10 North S8, 6, HT ======================================= ========================================C:\BRBR\whereagles.04.IMP-306.4.txtProduced by BRidgeBRowser on 4/8/2005========================================IMP-306 RCAG Dlr: West Board 4 S AKQT5 Vul: Both H A2 _kafkaf35 D KJ832 tahsin09 S J874 C 6 S 632 H Q984 H 65 D 96 whereagles D QT7 C QJ9 S 9 C K8754 H KJT73 D A54 C AT32 East South West North _kafkaf35RCAG tahsin09 whereagles53.00 65.01 55.43 70.12 Pass 1H Pass 1S Pass 2C Pass 2D Pass 2H Pass 3D Pass 3NT Pass 5H* Pass Pass Pass 1. inviting.. Opening lead: CQ Result: Made 5Score: 650 1 East CQ, 6, 5, 2 2 East CJ, H2, C4, C3 3 South HA, 6, 3, 4 4 South D2, T, A, 9 5 North HK, 8, D3, H5 6 North HJ, Q, D8, S6 7 East C9, S5, CK, CA 8 North HT, 9, DJ, S3 ======================================= # Contr Ld Decl Tr Score Pts ======================================= 1 6N S H6 moxie_99 12 1440 12.15 2 6N S H5 yvon 66 12 1440 12.15 3 6N N D9 hydra 12 1440 12.15 4 6N S H6 jan84 12 1440 12.15 5 6N N D9 Quastor 12 1440 12.15 6 6D S C8 contra 12 1370 11.30 7 6D S C5 nicomedya12 1370 11.30 8 6D S C5 akade 12 1370 11.30 9 6D S H6 beanman 12 1370 11.30 10 6D S C7 felix75 12 1370 11.30 11 6D S H6 saylor 12 1370 11.30 12 6D S H6 abonini 12 1370 11.30 13 3N N CQ karwasek 11 660 3.28 14 3N N CQ gigi II 11 660 3.28 15 3N N S4 ziuta321 11 660 3.28 16 3N N D9 sedef 11 660 3.28 17 4N N CQ xys 11 660 3.28 18 5N N CQ odettenic11 660 3.28 19 4H N CQ zvela69 11 650 3.26 20 5H N CQ whereagle11 650 3.26 21 3N S C5 rob145 10 630 2.89 22 3N N CQ duiuwont 10 630 2.89 23 3N N CQ gotan 10 630 2.89 24 5D S H5 djulius 12 620 2.74 25 3N N CQ jaskar4 9 600 2.47 26 2H N D9 Erols 12 230 -2.30 27 2D S D7 ykaya 12 170 -2.98 28 2D S H6 damya 12 170 -2.98 29 3D S H6 monek 12 170 -2.98 30 4D S C8 Freebid 12 170 -2.98 31 Pa C2 shawshank 0 0 3.00 32 7D S H6 joko2004 12 -100 -6.85 33 6H N CQ Artofnois11 -100 -6.85 34 6D S H6 drenka 11 -100 -6.85 35 6H N D9 aded3 11 -100 -6.85 36 6N S C5 Manitou 10 -200 -8.32 37 7N N CQ Hasan2 11 -200 -8.32 38 6N S S6 deleon 10 -200 -8.32 39 6N N CQ unaltur4810 -200 -8.32 40 6N N S4 zal1 10 -200 -8.32 41 6N N S4 ssabri 10 -200 -8.32 42 6N S C7 buddyshah10 -200 -8.32 43 6N N CQ yasmin 10 -200 -8.32 44 7N N CJ kaymaz 10 -300 -9.66 45 6N N CQ NAPOCAPO 9 -300 -9.66 46 6N N S4 engin_20019 -300 -9.66 47 6N N CQ johannab 7 -500 -11.94 48 7N N CQ hidayet 7 -600 -12.94 49 7NX S C4 goli1967 8 -1400 -17.87 ======================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Well, you just proven my point. *I* never have them. It is pard who gets them :) By the way, there's something about those hands I private-messaged you about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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