microcap Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Playing BAM scoring and a 13-16 1NT opening. [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sxxxhaqxdak9xcxxx]133|100|Scoring: BAM[/hv] The bidding goes--you open 1NT. Partner bids 2♦ transfer to hearts. You bid 2 ♥, now partner bids 3♥ inviting with a 6 card suit. Do you pass or go on? And would your answer change depending on the scoring system? Best to all as ever--- :blink: :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 I pass, not just because I got dead minimum, but also 4-3-3-3, and no controls on black suits. If the other table play 15-17 NT, the bidding could go 1D-1H-2H-4H (3H-pass/4H), or 1D-1H-1NT-2H, or even 1D-1H-1N-3H-4H. I would pass anyway, regardless of the scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 4♥ same @ imps, pass @ mps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 pass. i have a min. its bam. I dont think i would even bid this one red at imps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 I bid... tada...! 3NT!!!! Makes if pard has something like xxxKxxxxxxxAx Hum.. ok, maybe at imps this is more reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 I also like 3N. But I would never try 4H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 I bid... tada...! 3NT!!!! Makes if pard has something like xxxKxxxxxxXAx Hum.. ok, maybe at imps this is more reasonable. 3NT I hope p would have: AXXKXXXXXXQXX P is expected to still use judgement over 3nt and may pull with junky h and outside hcp. Since I deny 4H and they want me to bid game with 2 or 3H and 14 HCP.If they want me to bid game with 14 and random 4333 when they have less why bother to play invites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Since I deny 4H and they want me to bid game with 2 or 3H and 14 HCP. Read it carefully, Mike. The NT range is 13-16!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatrix45 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 :rolleyes: I have to bid a game. Opposite an expected hand with the KJ of hearts I can count six hearts and two diamonds. Missing the heart king, my hand is actually a little better since the heart suit may come in opposite six small. I anticipate a total of about nine HCP total. This means five or more HCP outside hearts. Will that translate into one (if the contract is NT) or two (if 4H) tricks? I think the odds favor that. As to the choice between 4H or 3NT, the case for 3NT almost boils down to one 'magic' hand: QJxKJxxxxxQJx Never bid the 'magic' hand. So, I think 4H is the ticket. xxKJxxxxxxKQx needs club ace onside xKxxxxxQxKJ9x 4H is a solid favorite xxKJxxxxxxKJx good spot xxJxxxxxQxAJx hearts come home or no spade lead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 3NT at Imps.At BAM it depends who my opponents are. Incidentally, 4H is crazy at any form of scoring - if you bid game it has to be 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 another vote for 3NT at imps.at mp I'll take plus score, Insufficient experience to suggest correct bid at b.a.m. (Instinct says bid 3NT making it a win/lose situation, put the pressure on opps to beat me.) I would consult my medium or check my horoscope--5+ controls/ hand is better than your average 13 hcp, can see 8 tricks off the top (probably) provided opps don't run 5-6 tricks off the top. Then I'll have the chance to say "sorry, P"!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Depends on your partner's style mostly imo. In a partnership, you need one pusher and one who brakes. If you're the pusher, then bid 3NT (4♥ is a little high, and no use of your trumps). If partner is the pusher, then pass... If I have to choose between pass and 4♥, I'll pass, but at the table there are no such silly restrictions so I can bid what I have to bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microcap Posted April 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 So as a corollary to this question: You hold: [hv=d=n&v=e&s=sa6hk107652d105ck86]133|100|Scoring: BAM[/hv] Partner opens 1NT, playing the same 13-16 HCP count. What is your strategy for this hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 BAM or matchpoint, easy pass, respect pard's invite. If we desperately need a swing (BAM) or a top (MP), I bid 3NT. IMPS, 3NT. Partner opens 1NT, playing the same 13-16 HCP count. What is your strategy for this hand? Xfer and invite by bidding 3M, exactly as your example.But if it was an IMP match, I would take a chance xferring directly to game, without sending back the ball in pard's court. ------------------------------------------------ As a side issue:do you use a 3 card support 2NT superaccept of xfers ?Does it show HHx support ?Does it show a max ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 So as a corollary to this question: You hold: [hv=d=n&v=e&s=sa6hk107652d105ck86]133|100|Scoring: BAM[/hv] Partner opens 1NT, playing the same 13-16 HCP count. What is your strategy for this hand? With this hand, I would bid 4♥ directly after transfer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdulmage Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 Playing BAM scoring and a 13-16 1NT opening. [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sxxxhaqxdak9xcxxx]133|100|Scoring: BAM[/hv] The bidding goes--you open 1NT. Partner bids 2♦ transfer to hearts. You bid 2 ♥, now partner bids 3♥ inviting with a 6 card suit. Do you pass or go on? And would your answer change depending on the scoring system? Best to all as ever--- :P B) 7.5 loser hand, 4-3-3-3? No thanks. I'll pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdulmage Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 So as a corollary to this question: You hold: Dealer: North Vul: E/W Scoring: BAM ♠ A6 ♥ K107652 ♦ 105 ♣ K86 Partner opens 1NT, playing the same 13-16 HCP count. What is your strategy for this hand? With this hand, I would bid 4♥ directly after transfer. Looking at a 7 loser hand opposite probably a 7 loser hand, have to chance it and bid 4 hearts over the 2 hearts transfer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 this is bam, right? i don't think 4H is a given here, not at mps or bam... at imps, yeah i'd bid 4h after the xfer but i think i'd only invite here... partner will go on with a good 14 (maybe) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 Pard should have around 10 for this call, right? 8 tricks are marked. Deduct 3 for the ♥K leaving a scattered 7 count to take 2 tricks. Its close but I go on to 4♥. 3N very well could be our only makeable spot, and the quick tricks tell me that it is, but it looks like we are too wide open. Besides, 3N wasn't listed as an option, so it MUST be wrong. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 I go down in games all the time, even cold ones, but I can not imagine passing here. With this NT range parnter may even have a good 10, passing looks whimpy to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted April 9, 2005 Report Share Posted April 9, 2005 PASS. There comes a day when the green card is more than an option. 8 loser hand, 3343. Count me out, especially at this format. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 So as a corollary to this question: You hold: Dealer: North Vul: E/W Scoring: BAM ♠ A6 ♥ K107652 ♦ 105 ♣ K86 Partner opens 1NT, playing the same 13-16 HCP count. What is your strategy for this hand? With this hand, I would bid 4♥ directly after transfer. This is an easy game bid over a 13-16 NT. there are MANY 13-14 point hand games that pard should be passing an invite with that make game cold or good. Anyone who invites with this counts points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 4♥ same @ imps, pass @ mps BAM is MP's, but you bid like you're playing imps? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted April 11, 2005 Report Share Posted April 11, 2005 4♥ same @ imps, pass @ mps BAM is MP's, but you bid like you're playing imps? ;) Yes, I was just wondering about that... BAM strategy should be very similar to MP strategy, the only difference is that the 'field' is more predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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