flytoox Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 Sitting at south, you hold: S: KQTX H: AXX D: X C: AJTXX East opened with 1H as dealer, what do you do? 1) Dbl; Spade is shown, but if pd bid 2d, you are stuck; 2) 2C, you now risk spade fit. This hand is not too good, not too bad either. How to handle this kind hand? Many thanks. HOngjun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 In many partnership, I play a direct seat NT overall as showing4 cards in an unbid major with a longer unbid minor.Would work very well on this hand. Even if I am playing standard, I'd still be very tempted to bid 1NTGets the strength across, easy to find a spade fit, and how often will partner want to play in Diamonds? If I'm playing with a partner who would get upset with 1NT, I'd overcall 1S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 You can play the "Raptor" NT convention where an overcall of 1M shows 4 cards in the other major and a 5 card minor suit. This hand is just perfect for that treatment :-).(Playing Raptor over 1m 1NT shows 5om and 4M) If you don't play that then a 2c overcall seems to be normal, if pd has values to bid 2d or cuebid 2h you have an easy 2s rebid if pd bids 2s then you can bid 3s. It doesn't seem to be a problem. Dbl is surely wrong, you will be in trouble or in a wrong spot if pd bids 2d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 In many partnership, I play a direct seat NT overall as showing4 cards in an unbid major with a longer unbid minor.Would work very well on this hand. Even if I am playing standard, I'd still be very tempted to bid 1NTGets the strength across, easy to find a spade fit, and how often will partner want to play in Diamonds? If I'm playing with a partner who would get upset with 1NT, I'd overcall 1S Hehe, I also mentioned the Raptor 1NT overcall, maybe that's why we play the same system :-)I really don't like the 1s overcall if they play the hand you want pd to lead a club not a spade and if you end up playing 4s in the 4-3 fit with a good 8/9 card fit in clubs pd will not be happy.I like 1s with a bad 5 card minor or when I have just a few points and want to introduce spades just in case we can compete if pd has some strength. In this hand 1s can attempt against your own constructive bidding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 I'd bet dollars to donuts that Marshall Miles would recommend a 1S overcall with this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 Maybe we have a "master solvers forum" hand here :-)I'd vote for 2c and score 100 you crazy 1s bidders get your 80 and stop crying :-))) Life is not only about spades.Votes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 And here are the votes of my jury: 100 points for 1 NT raptor 80 for pasing, good pds will often reopen 60 for 2 Club 40 1 Spade 20 double 0 two HeartlI asked all bridge players in my village (me) and we all agreed on this rating. Kind Regards Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted July 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 Thanks all. IN the field, about 60% bid 2c, and about 35% dbl, 5% choose pass. Pd holds: S: J98XXX H: KX D: KTX C: XX 4S IS an easy make. I overcalled 2c, but pd passed, maybe downvalued his hk for east opened 1h. So our talbe is the only one playng 2c:( 1N convention seems nice, so for the normal overcall nt hand, you will dbl and rebid nt? As for 1S overcall, I thought about it finally gave up. I actually think 1s is not that bad, coz KQTX is really very solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Fourrière Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 That hand would open 2C in Polish club or for some Precision players and 2C here runs less chance of ending the auction than would a 2C opening. 1N is slightly wrong on pattern and nearly wrong on strength. 1S might turn out very right or quite wrong. Hence the votes of my jury: 2C: 1001N: 90 (not Raptor)1S: 80Pass: 302H: 20double: 10 (argh!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifemonster Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 If you do not play Raptor 1NT(which used to be popular among Canadian juniors, especially in the campus of Univ. of Waterloo), a delayed takeout double works better. You are planning 1H-pass-2D-pass2H-dbl Now it's perfect shape for delayed double. If my memory serves me right, there is a classical delayed double hand by Soloway in Spingold years ago. I have yet to find it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 14, 2003 Report Share Posted July 14, 2003 Choice 1 a raptor 1NT overcall. Choice 2 a canape overcall of 1S (if available and if not playing in the US)Choice 3 a natural 1S overcallChoice 4 a 2C overcallChoice 5 Pass. Hoping to come in later - see Lifemonster's postChoice 6 double Double is clearly the worst of all possible actions, leaving you very badly placed if pd bounces in Ds. Even playing equal level conversion you can get into serious strife by doubling on this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifemonster Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 OK here it is, from 79 Spingold. Q8632 J 10962 Q424 A75K75 AQ10632AKJ743 Q5J107 65 KJ109 984 8 AK983 The bidding wentN E S Wp 1H p(1) 2Dp 2H dbl(2) p4S(3) 5H p p5S(4) x all p (1)They didn't play Raptor;(2)perfect delayed double now(3)choose to sac(4)choose to sac again EW plus 100. In the other room, South overcalled 2C and spades were buried. EW 650. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishovnbg Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 Hi friends, instead of comment i will give you an example from last tournament. My hand P hand AJxx 1098xxxxx xxAxxxx KQxxA Qx Bidding: Opp open 1HE before me, o overcall 1SP ( thanks to Marshall Miles "21"), p raise to 4. Lead JDI, Result = Misho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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