sceptic Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Fred, nice one very smart move. I dont suppose you can make the field a bit longer for the alert info ? also the teleportation device is brilliant Hope we see some more of the same in the near future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Dear Fred! The new toys are great! People will wonder how they could live without it before. The prealert is a very nice feature. As a user i can't get enough though, so I hope in a future version, i can predefine messages for bids, and select them right clicking on the bid. Thanks so farhotShot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 This beta version is going to be VERY POPULAR.. a lot of buzz about it on line today. As an aside, this is a GREAT feature for yellows, as when someone calls for help, we can right click their name and instantly find their table. TD's will like this too I think.. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 this update is ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Yup, 4.1.9 is great. I'm not sure whether I should be posting this in the TD forum or in suggestions for the software, so I shall randomly add it onto this thread... I've recently started TDing, and was shocked at the number of disconnects there were. I'm guessing there were at least 40 subs used in an 8 board tourney that started with 100 players, and it wasn't like the tourney had ground to a halt or anything. There doesn't seem to be any easy way of blacklisting the players who have disconnected - I would have to right click on my name, open up friends/enemies, work out how to spell their name...and by the time I've done that, three more people have disconnected! So - is there an easier way of doing it, and if not would it be possible for a future version to allow you to set the status of a player who has disconnected by right clicking on his name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Thanks everyone! One change I forgot to mention in the original post is that there is now a "cancel" button (instead of a "logoff" button) in "waiting for permission". Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sceptic Posted April 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 WOW, speaking as someone that finds that a complete pain in the butt, I just tried it and it is excellent. 10/10 Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elianna Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 I don't know if this is the place to mention it (but since the thread where you announced the new version is closed, I guess here will work), but it's rather counter-intuitive to figure out how to follow someone playing in a tournament. (If others are having issues: You need to right click, and go to player notes, this brings up the window previously available by right-clicking.) I expected it to be in the right-click menu, and when it wasn't, I had to do some searching! Anyway, thanks for the changes otherwise, it all looks great so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 I don't know if this is the place to mention it (but since the thread where you announced the new version is closed, I guess here will work), but it's rather counter-intuitive to figure out how to follow someone playing in a tournament. (If others are having issues: You need to right click, and go to player notes, this brings up the window previously available by right-clicking.) I expected it to be in the right-click menu, and when it wasn't, I had to do some searching! Anyway, thanks for the changes otherwise, it all looks great so far! That's probably one of the 'extra features comming' :) Yes it's great, when whining at the forum about the rightclick possibilities are now implemented. Result! B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badderzboy Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 I think the new version is great! When someone is playing at a disallowed Kib table is it worth putting Kib disallowed msg into the right click option for info? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 I don't know if this is the place to mention it (but since the thread where you announced the new version is closed, I guess here will work), but it's rather counter-intuitive to figure out how to follow someone playing in a tournament. (If others are having issues: You need to right click, and go to player notes, this brings up the window previously available by right-clicking.) I expected it to be in the right-click menu, and when it wasn't, I had to do some searching! Anyway, thanks for the changes otherwise, it all looks great so far! An option to follow a player during a tournament will be included on the right-click menu in the next version. Also in the new version you will be able to right-click your own name to: - edit your profile- go in and out of be right back made- turn on and off lobby chat- turn on and off chat logging- likely some other functions Some minor bugs in 4.1.9 have been reported (thanks) and fixes for these will appear in 4.2.0. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwingo Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Great work. I should say that the 4.1.9 is major milestone in improvements. Joining a person at his table is a great feature which has been asked many times in the past here and this should make a lot of people happy. Typing the explanation prior to making the bid avoids the delay for the next bidder. Many a time the next hand bids before the Alert is seen. This is a great improvement. I will greatly appreciate a small change in this area. The box is now a blank box. If the same can be replaced with a box with a Explain window, this will help all the OKScript users who use automatic Alerts with explanation OK Script needs to recognise a window. The Explain Window opens when you bid and press Alert. If this window is available, when it is your turn to bid ( instead of the blank box), this will greatly help the OKScript user. This will overcome the delay between the Alert & Explanation and the next hand bidding, so that the next hand will always see the explanation, before it is his turn to bid. Godwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Very good job Fred&Uday ! The features added are of such a kind that they will impact many frequent tasks performed by all level of users. Indeed a dramatic improvement, thx !! B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 That's one small step for Fred&Uday, one giant leap for BBO users B) thanks,another very happy user! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andych Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Dear Fred! The new toys are great! People will wonder how they could live without it before. The prealert is a very nice feature. As a user i can't get enough though, so I hope in a future version, i can predefine messages for bids, and select them right clicking on the bid. Thanks so farhotShot Some other opinions ...... The pre-alert does not suit me. The white area looks odd to me.I (and maybe many others) play with pick up partner and bidding is simple sayc or 2/1. There is no need for me to alert frequently. The original alert mechanism is good enough for me. Could it be turned off in the coming 4.2.0 verison? B) B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 I (and maybe many others) play with pick up partner and bidding is simple sayc or 2/1. There is no need for me to alert frequently. The original alert mechanism is good enough for me. Huh??? The alert regulations of virtually every significant body require frequent alerts even if you are playing SAYC or 2/1 with a pickup partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uday Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 You don't have to use the prealert area.If you want to do things the way you always did, just ignore the prealert area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andych Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 I don't know if this is the place to mention it (but since the thread where you announced the new version is closed, I guess here will work), but it's rather counter-intuitive to figure out how to follow someone playing in a tournament. (If others are having issues: You need to right click, and go to player notes, this brings up the window previously available by right-clicking.) I expected it to be in the right-click menu, and when it wasn't, I had to do some searching! Anyway, thanks for the changes otherwise, it all looks great so far! I havent tried to follow a player in a tourney in 4.1.9. It already sounds troublesome to me. I prefer the simple approach in prev version..... simply right click and get the window.... where u can make someone a friend/ follow throughout the tourney. Sorry seems I am on the other side of the majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 I don't know if this is the place to mention it (but since the thread where you announced the new version is closed, I guess here will work), but it's rather counter-intuitive to figure out how to follow someone playing in a tournament. (If others are having issues: You need to right click, and go to player notes, this brings up the window previously available by right-clicking.) I expected it to be in the right-click menu, and when it wasn't, I had to do some searching! Anyway, thanks for the changes otherwise, it all looks great so far! I havent tried to follow a player in a tourney in 4.1.9. It already sounds troublesome to me. I prefer the simple approach in prev version..... simply right click and get the window.... where u can make someone a friend/ follow throughout the tourney. Sorry seems I am on the other side of the majority. In 4.2.0 there will be a command on the right click menu to do this. You will still be able to accesss the traditional "set status" window (which will continue to contain all of its traditional components) through right click followed by "edit player notes for X". Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andych Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 I (and maybe many others) play with pick up partner and bidding is simple sayc or 2/1. There is no need for me to alert frequently. The original alert mechanism is good enough for me. Huh??? The alert regulations of virtually every significant body require frequent alerts even if you are playing SAYC or 2/1 with a pickup partner. But I am not playing in the significant bodies. And I could request no alert pls in those bodies. But I am not asking Fred/Uday to implement 'no alert pls'. I see many features in 'Suggestions to software' as excessive. I remember in some other posts Fred mention he come across with people unfamiliar with computers and strike to keep BBO simple. Hope Fred hasnt change his mind. I understand it is always difficult to get the balance. B) B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 I (and maybe many others) play with pick up partner and bidding is simple sayc or 2/1. There is no need for me to alert frequently. The original alert mechanism is good enough for me. Huh??? The alert regulations of virtually every significant body require frequent alerts even if you are playing SAYC or 2/1 with a pickup partner. But I am not playing in the significant bodies. And I could request no alert pls in those bodies. A request to "not alert" means that you don't want the opponents providing you with alerts. In no, way, shape, or form does this excuse you of your own responsible to disclose your methods... Equally significant, a large number of events in BBO are help using the ACBL/EBU/IBF regulatory structures... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andych Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 I (and maybe many others) play with pick up partner and bidding is simple sayc or 2/1. There is no need for me to alert frequently. The original alert mechanism is good enough for me. Huh??? The alert regulations of virtually every significant body require frequent alerts even if you are playing SAYC or 2/1 with a pickup partner. But I am not playing in the significant bodies. And I could request no alert pls in those bodies. A request to "not alert" means that you don't want the opponents providing you with alerts. In no, way, shape, or form does this excuse you of your own responsible to disclose your methods... Equally significant, a large number of events in BBO are help using the ACBL/EBU/IBF regulatory structures... I just mean people have diff attitude towards alert. To me, one asking their opps to write an essay of every bid simply wants their opps to defend for them. One feeling the need to alert every his/her own bid prefer rules more to judgement. It does not relate to 4.1.9 itself, and trust many would disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Some other opinions ...... The pre-alert does not suit me. The white area looks odd to me.I (and maybe many others) play with pick up partner and bidding is simple sayc or 2/1. There is no need for me to alert frequently. The original alert mechanism is good enough for me. Could it be turned off in the coming 4.2.0 verison? :blink: :ph34r: I don't understand your problem with the textfield. You can still just press alert and click on your bid, just like the textfield isn't even there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andych Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Some other opinions ...... The pre-alert does not suit me. The white area looks odd to me.I (and maybe many others) play with pick up partner and bidding is simple sayc or 2/1. There is no need for me to alert frequently. The original alert mechanism is good enough for me. Could it be turned off in the coming 4.2.0 verison? :blink: :ph34r: I don't understand your problem with the textfield. You can still just press alert and click on your bid, just like the textfield isn't even there... I do not mean to remove the text field feature. I would like to have an option to enable/disable it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTodd13 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 When I first tried 4.1.9 last night, I was thinking to myself, that white space there next to the alert button is ugly. At first I thought it was a glitch then I realized what it was. I like being able to type in the explanation before I make the bid. This saves time for those who are too impatient and click on the bid immediately after the alert before I have a chance to type it in. However, aesthetically, I think it could be improved. Also, could we not call this "pre-alert." That word has a certain connotations and it is not entirely obvious all you are talking about is giving the explanation before the bid is made. All in all, great job Fred. Another set of nice improvements to BBO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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