Gibs keep overbidding me

[woodych]

The Gibs keep overbidding me and it turns out more than half the time my bid was the right one.

Grrr, why do they keep doing this!!

[lycier]

Hello, welcome you to Gib robot forum.

You would better take several examples in detail, let's see the exact reasons.

[woodych]

I wish I knew how to save and show the hands concerned.

It is where I have a long suit and my gib partner also does, although often still shorter than mine.

I have no support for his but he has a couple of mine.

I bid that suit maybe twice and gib bids his a 3rd time so I give up at that point, but after hands I see my bid was the right one.

Hard to explain sorry

[lycier]

Unfair comments. I check your hand records, I can find the results you played with Gib is more better than with human.

For example :

[hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn|~~M49998,~~M49680,lubrici,woodych|st%7C%7Cmd%7C1S39H48TD38TKC59JQ%2CS47JKAH3KD26JC367%2CS268TQH69JD479QC2%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%203%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3C%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C6H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CD9%7C]400|300[/hv]

Result: 6♥E-1

 

It is you to be blamed instead of Gib.

[johnu]

I wish I knew how to save and show the hands concerned.

It is where I have a long suit and my gib partner also does, although often still shorter than mine.

I have no support for his but he has a couple of mine.

I bid that suit maybe twice and gib bids his a 3rd time so I give up at that point, but after hands I see my bid was the right one.

Hard to explain sorry

 

Don't worry about it. Keep bidding your suit and GIB will eventually stop bidding their suit although it may be at the 7 level.

[lycier]

Don't worry about it. Keep bidding your suit and GIB will eventually stop bidding their suit although it may be at the 7 level.

 

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[iandayre]

Unfair comments. I check your hand records, I can find the results you played with Gib is more better than with human.

For example :

[hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn|~~M49998,~~M49680,lubrici,woodych|st%7C%7Cmd%7C1S39H48TD38TKC59JQ%2CS47JKAH3KD26JC367%2CS268TQH69JD479QC2%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%203%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3C%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C6H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CD9%7C]400|300[/hv]

Result: 6♥E-1

 

It is you to be blamed instead of Gib.

 

This is certainly not an example of what Woodych was talking about, GIB gave delayed support for his suit, it did not continue to bid its own. It's of course true that 6H was a bad bid and the human player deserved the bad result. Then again, posting this hand which has nothing to do with his post isn't fair.

[1eyedjack]

This is certainly not an example of what Woodych was talking about, GIB gave delayed support for his suit, it did not continue to bid its own. It's of course true that 6H was a bad bid and the human player deserved the bad result. Then again, posting this hand which has nothing to do with his post isn't fair.

I agree with iandayre here.

 

I had a look at the OP hands for the month of March (at least, those recorded in MyHands and available for public view) and filtered on those in which the OP partnered GIB, their side opened the bidding, declared and were defeated. That reduced the population from (if I may say an impressive) 1867 hands to just 17, of which I could only find one that remotely fitted the complaint:

 

[hv=bbo=y&lin=pn|sudhir06,woodych,efay55,~~M57016|st%7C%7Cmd%7C4S468H68KAD47QC29Q%2CSH49D2568JAC57TJA%2CS27TKH2357JD3C34K%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%206%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7C1S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2D%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3C%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3D%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3H%7Cmb%7C3S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4D%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CH5%7C]400|300[/hv]

 

Here GIB was propelled into Salvador Dali country by West's pass of a game forcing 3D bid by East, so what then ensued is uncharted territory. Possibly 4S was meant as a cue. Even this hand does not really meet the criteria, as East did at one point show some interest in Diamonds earlier in the auction.

 

To Woodych I would say: if you can't work out how to hard code hands into forum posts, don't lose any sleep over it. But you could just paste a link to the offending hand in the MyHands site. The lazy way out, and not permanent, but would suffice for most purposes.

[lycier]

[hv=bbo=y&lin=pn|sudhir06,woodych,efay55,~~M57016|st%7C%7Cmd%7C4S468H68KAD47QC29Q%2CSH49D2568JAC57TJA%2CS27TKH2357JD3C34K%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%206%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7C1S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2D%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3C%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3D%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3H%7Cmb%7C3S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4D%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CH5%7C]400|300[/hv]

 

This hand perfectly showed Woodych didn't understand Gib CC.

Woodych, after 1♠, would you ever read Gib CC before responding 2♦? Now can I tell you that 2♦ says " Forcing two over one--- 13+hcp,biddable D,14+TPs. " ? So only correct bidding should be forcing 1NT instead of responding 2♦ for forcing to game.

The blame is you instead of Gib. I am wondering why you looked down on Gib. Is it a language issue?

Fair play or unfair one? would you tell us?

Edited April 2, 2016 by lycier