heart76 Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 White vs Red, MPs.Partner passes in 1st seat and RHO opens 1♦.You hold: Kxx - 109xxx - K10xx - x.Would you bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 If I bid, 1♠ or 2♥ depending on how I was feeling, but probably pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesleyC Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 I think pass is clear, but only because your suit is very poor. If you improved the heart suit a little, say: [xxx KT9xx KTxx x] and you would get plenty of support for some level of interference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 i have no objection to a style where you bid on much less than this, but only if your suit's sensible. here you have far too much defense relative to offense. 2H would be even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 I overcall with this shape and point range all the time but only if I can at least stand partner leading the suit I bid so I pass here. I WILL balance if they try to stop low as my partner can still have some flatish decent hands that others would open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 I will happily bid 2♥ here, but I've trained my partners (through bitter experience) not to lead my preempted suits in such positions unless they really have no better prospect, nor to raise it unless they really have the nuts for their initial pass. If partner is unlikely to bid again and I'm this weak, then ODR isn't that relevant - the opps very likely have game and possibly slam, and I want to make it harder for them to find which (and which one). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 I will happily bid 2♥ here, but I've trained my partners (through bitter experience) not to lead my preempted suits in such positions unless they really have no better prospect, nor to raise it unless they really have the nuts for their initial pass. If partner is unlikely to bid again and I'm this weak, then ODR isn't that relevant - the opps very likely have game and possibly slam, and I want to make it harder for them to find which (and which one). this is a line i often hear but a 2 level wjo isn't very powerful though. its power comes from partner's raising it. you're losing the majority of the upside by playing such a loose method. you have absolutely no reason to think the opps have a slam on with ktxx of rho's suit and another king. partner's got 0-10 and it's more likely 10 than 0. in fact there's a fair chance they are due to go minus in game on this deal. of course if they happen to catch you in 2hx, it's guaranteed they'll be scoring more from it than whatever they can make themselves. yes this kind of stuff works against clueless people though (at the cost of increasing variance) but i don't think there's much point answering on the forum with bad bids that might make clueless opponents make even worse bids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 I would overcall. This hand has nice positional values and could produce game opposite a weak NT. If partner had already passed I'd also pass. Last night I held KQ Txxxx Kxxx xx but the opening bid was 1C, we were r/w and partner was a PH, so caution prevailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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