chasetb Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 1.) Why does the description of 2♥ say 4+ Hearts, but only 4 Clubs?2.) Why does GIB raise to game on only 3? Why doesn't it just bid 3♣ to show the INV hand?[hv=sn=chasetb&s=SQJ82HK952DQ6CAJ7&wn=Robot&w=S743H874DJ543CT96&nn=Robot&n=SKT6HQ63DK7CQ8543&en=Robot&e=SA95HAJTDAT982CK2&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=1C%28Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20!C%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%29P2C!%28Inverted%20minor%20suit%20raise%20--%204+%20!C%3B%203-%20!H%3B%203-%20!S%3B%2010+%20HCP%3B%20forcing%20to%202N%292D%285+%20!D%3B%2011-18%20total%20points%292H%284%20!C%3B%204+%20!H%3B%2021-%20HCP%3B%2013-22%20total%20points%29P4H%284+%20!C%3B%203%20!H%3B%203-%20!S%3B%2011+%20HCP%3B%2012-17%20total%20points%3B%20partial%20stop%20in%20!H%29PPP&p=D3D7DAD6D9DQD4DKH3HTHKH4H2H7H6HJHAH5H8HQDTC7DJC3D5C4D2S2S4SKSAS8D8H9C6C5SQS3S6S5SJS7STS9CAC9C8C2CJCTCQCK]400|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 1.) Why does the description of 2♥ say 4+ Hearts, but only 4 Clubs?2.) Why does GIB raise to game on only 3? Why doesn't it just bid 3♣ to show the INV hand?[hv=sn=chasetb&s=SQJ82HK952DQ6CAJ7&wn=Robot&w=S743H874DJ543CT96&nn=Robot&n=SKT6HQ63DK7CQ8543&en=Robot&e=SA95HAJTDAT982CK2&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=1C%28Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20!C%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%29P2C!%28Inverted%20minor%20suit%20raise%20--%204+%20!C%3B%203-%20!H%3B%203-%20!S%3B%2010+%20HCP%3B%20forcing%20to%202N%292D%285+%20!D%3B%2011-18%20total%20points%292H%284%20!C%3B%204+%20!H%3B%2021-%20HCP%3B%2013-22%20total%20points%29P4H%284+%20!C%3B%203%20!H%3B%203-%20!S%3B%2011+%20HCP%3B%2012-17%20total%20points%3B%20partial%20stop%20in%20!H%29PPP&p=D3D7DAD6D9DQD4DKH3HTHKH4H2H7H6HJHAH5H8HQDTC7DJC3D5C4D2S2S4SKSAS8D8H9C6C5SQS3S6S5SJS7STS9CAC9C8C2CJCTCQCK]400|300[/hv] First: Whenever I read your post, your thread always make me uncomfortable.Why do you use word " Why " third time?please you Be friendly to Gib,Be polite to Gib.Your thread is only for reporting,let BBO know, not for complaining. Second :You maybe not understand Gib CC.After I replayed your hand, I found it is not necessarily.- You said " Why does the description of 2♥ say 4+ Hearts, but only 4 Clubs? ".I think after inverted minor suit raise, responder denies any 4-card major, if opener rebid 2♥, it may show unbalanced hand, that's to say opener could have perfect reasons to hold 5-card ♥ with long opening suit in the unbalanced hand. At this point, you would better read others bids after overcall 2♦ :your Pass = No suitable call - 3+♣,11-21hcp,12-22TPs,forcing to 2Nyour 2N = 3-5♣,2-5♦,2-4♥,2-4♠,11-14hcp,12+TPs,likely stop in ♦.So we could be very easy to see your best choice is Pass instead of rebid-2♥. You should be to blame in this case. - You said " Why does GIB raise to game on only 3? Why doesn't it just bid 3♣ to show the INV hand?". Now let's see that hand replayed by my basic Gib . 1- [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=机器人&s=SQJ82HK952DQ6CAJ7&wn=机器人&w=S743H874DJ543CT96&nn=机器人&n=SKT6HQ63DK7CQ8543&en=机器人&e=SA95HAJTDAT982CK2&d=s&v=o&b=11&a=1C(Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20%21C%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P2C!(Inverted%20minor%20suit%20raise%20--%204+%20%21C%3B%203-%20%21H%3B%203-%20%21S%3B%2010+%20HCP%3B%20forcing%20to%202N)2D(5+%20%21D%3B%2011-18%20total%20points)PP3C(5+%20%21C%3B%203-%20%21H%3B%203-%20%21S%3B%2010+%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points)D(Takeout%20double%20--%202-%20%21C%3B%205+%20%21D%3B%203+%20%21H%3B%203+%20%21S%3B%2016-18%20total%20points)P3D(2+%20%21D%3B%208-%20total%20points)PPP&p=DQD3D7DAD8D6D4DKSTS5S8S3H6HJHKH7H2H8HQHAD2C7D5C3C6C4CKCACJC9C8C2H9H4H3HTD9S2DJC5S4S6S9SJH5CTCQDTSASQS7SK]400|300[/hv]Result : ♦3E-2 2- Here I would imitate your bidding sequences at below.[hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=lycier&s=SQJ82HK952DQ6CAJ7&wn=机器人&w=S743H874DJ543CT96&nn=机器人&n=SKT6HQ63DK7CQ8543&en=机器人&e=SA95HAJTDAT982CK2&d=s&v=o&b=11&a=1C(Minor%20suit%20opening%20--%203+%20%21C%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P2C!(Inverted%20minor%20suit%20raise%20--%204+%20%21C%3B%203-%20%21H%3B%203-%20%21S%3B%2010+%20HCP%3B%20forcing%20to%202N)2D(5+%20%21D%3B%2011-18%20total%20points)2H(4%20%21C%3B%204+%20%21H%3B%2021-%20HCP%3B%2013-22%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%202N)P3C(4+%20%21C%3B%203-%20%21H%3B%203-%20%21S%3B%2010+%20HCP%3B%2011-%20total%20points)PP3D(3+%20%21D%3B%203-8%20total%20points)PPD(4%20%21C%3B%204+%20%21H%3B%20biddable%20%21D%3B%2013-17%20total%20points)PPP&p=SQS3STS9S2S7SKSAS5S8S4S6DQD3D7DADTD6DJDKH3HTHKH7H2H8HQHAD2SJD5C3CTC4C2CJCAC9C5CKC7C6CQD9D8H5D4H6HJH9H4C8]400|300[/hv]Result : 3♦EX-2Surprisely, now we can see North Gib really rebid 3♣ after my 2♥ !!! So , would we guess your advanced Gib maybe act up within unknown reason? Here I suggest while we encounter Gib issue, keep calm, then friendly reporting to BBO, never complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 Pass by South over the 2D is correct. The explanation attached to the 2H bid is deficient in several respects. As pointed out be the OP it precludes the possibility of opener holding a 5th club, which is absurd. But more to the point the explanation as a whole embraces those hands where pass is the better option. So 2H should show shape or strength or maybe both. Given which I am prepared to accept GIB simulations that 4H on a 4-3 fit has good enough chances to try for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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