5 Diamonds shows so many points

[AyunuS]

http://tinyurl.com/z93sv9b

 

I was just trying to compete, or maybe overshow my hand somewhat in that maybe it could raise to 6, but I think going for 7 here is kinda ridiculous. I should be able to compete more than that without getting put in a grand.

[1eyedjack]

Absolutely right. One more aspect that we have been banging on about for years in forum posts but still not addressed in v 35

[lycier]

Basic or advanced Gib?

Would you tell us?

[1eyedjack]

Isn't the system the same in both?

[iandayre]

Too bad it didn't get cute and try a different lead this time.

[AyunuS]

It was advanced GIB, but idk if it matters. In either case, it has too many points to not raise given I showed 29+.

[lycier]

It was advanced GIB, but idk if it matters. In either case, it has too many points to not raise given I showed 29+.

 

Absolutely right. One more aspect that we have been banging on about for years in forum posts but still not addressed in v 35

 

 

Good topic .Thanks to you.

 

I am a layman, I just want to express what I see. It seems that there is a failure while you play with/against advanced Gib. Please see my evidences here.

 

First,let's see your hand :

[hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=AyunuS&s=S3HAK9DKJT9754CA5&wn=Robot&w=SKQJ9764HT8DQ3CK2&nn=Robot&n=S5HQJ7532DA62C643&en=Robot&e=SAT82H64D8CQJT987&d=w&v=b&b=4&a=1S(Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20%21S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P3S(Limit%20major%20raise%20--%204+%20%21S%3B%2010-12%20total%20points)4D(Overcall%20--%205+%20%21D%3B%2015+%20total%20points)4S(5+%20%21S%3B%2014+%20HCP%3B%2015-20%20total%20points)PP5D(strong%20rebiddable%20%21D%3B%2029-30%20total%20points)P7D(2+%20%21D%3B%207-16%20total%20points)D(4+%20%21S%3B%2010-12%20total%20points)PPP&p=SKS5SAS3CQCAC2C3D4D3DAD8D2S2DKDQHAH8H2H6&c=12]400|300[/hv]

Result : 7♦SX-1

As for 5♦, perhaps here lacks of the definition, needs to improve it in the future.

 

Second, see my hand played by basic Gib, and I also think this is a standard bidding sequence, it goes :

[hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=lycier&s=S3HAK9DKJT9754CA5&wn=机器人&w=SKQJ9764HT8DQ3CK2&nn=机器人&n=S5HQJ7532DA62C643&en=机器人&e=SAT82H64D8CQJT987&d=w&v=o&b=8&a=1S(Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20%21S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P3S(Limit%20major%20raise%20--%204+%20%21S%3B%2010-12%20total%20points)4D(Overcall%20--%205+%20%21D%3B%2015+%20total%20points)4S(5+%20%21S%3B%2014+%20HCP%3B%2015-20%20total%20points)D(11+%20HCP%3B%2016-%20total%20points)P5D(strong%20rebiddable%20%21D%3B%2015-19%20total%20points)5S(5+%20%21S%3B%2014+%20HCP%3B%2015-20%20total%20points)PPD(strong%20rebiddable%20%21D%3B%2015-19%20total%20points)PPP&p=HQH4H9HTDAD8DJD3H7H6HKH8CAC2C3C7DKDQD2S2S8S3S9S5S7C4STHACQC5CKC6SKD6SADTCJD9SJHJSQH2C8D4S6H5C9D5S4H3CTD7]400|300[/hv]

Result : 5♠WX-2

After 4♠, north Gib will double for sure, it never pass in fact, however north Gib do pass in your advanced Gib hand, I don't know the reasons.

 

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In fact, here there are no better general agreement on many bidding definitions or there are many interesting things. For example :

 

[hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=机器人&s=S3HAK9DKJT9754CA5&wn=机器人&w=SKQJ9764HT8DQ3CK2&nn=机器人&n=S5HQJ7532DA62C643&en=机器人&e=SAT82H64D8CQJT987&d=w&v=o&b=8&a=1S(Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20%21S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P3S(Limit%20major%20raise%20--%204+%20%21S%3B%2010-12%20total%20points)D(Takeout%20double%20--%203+%20%21C%3B%203+%20%21D%3B%204+%20%21H%3B%202-%20%21S%3B%2013+%20total%20points)4S(5+%20%21S%3B%2014+%20HCP%3B%2015-20%20total%20points)PPP&p=HQH4H9HTDAD8D4D3H5H6HKH8CAC2C3C7C5CKC6C8S9S5S8S3S7D2STD5S2DJSKD6DQC4SADKCQDTSJHJSQH2C9D9S6H7CTD7S4H3CJHA]400|300[/hv]

 

[hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=机器人&s=S3HAK9DKJT9754CA5&wn=机器人&w=SKQJ9764HT8DQ3CK2&nn=lycier&n=S5HQJ7532DA62C643&en=机器人&e=SAT82H64D8CQJT987&d=w&v=o&b=8&a=1S(Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20%21S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P3S(Limit%20major%20raise%20--%204+%20%21S%3B%2010-12%20total%20points)D(Takeout%20double%20--%203+%20%21C%3B%203+%20%21D%3B%204+%20%21H%3B%202-%20%21S%3B%2013+%20total%20points)4S(5+%20%21S%3B%2014+%20HCP%3B%2015-20%20total%20points)5H(4+%20%21H%3B%2016-%20total%20points)D(4+%20%21S%3B%2010-12%20total%20points)PPP&p=D8D9D3D2HAH8H2H4HKHTH3H6D4DQDASTD6S2DTS4DKS7S5S8DJSKC3CQD7SQC4CJD5SJC6CTH9S9HQC8HJC9S3C2H7C7C5S6H5SACACK]400|300[/hv]

 

[hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=lycier&s=S3HAK9DKJT9754CA5&wn=机器人&w=SKQJ9764HT8DQ3CK2&nn=机器人&n=S5HQJ7532DA62C643&en=机器人&e=SAT82H64D8CQJT987&d=w&v=o&b=8&a=1S(Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20%21S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P3S(Limit%20major%20raise%20--%204+%20%21S%3B%2010-12%20total%20points)5D(Preempt%20--%208+%20%21D%3B%203-20%20total%20points)PPP&p=HTH2H6HADKD3D2D8DJDQDASTH3H4HKH8H9S4HJS2HQS8S3C2H7CQC5CKC3C7CASKDTSQD6CJD9SJS5C8D7S9H5CTD5S6C6C9D4S7C4SA]400|300[/hv]

 

[hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=lycier&s=S3HAK9DKJT9754CA5&wn=机器人&w=SKQJ9764HT8DQ3CK2&nn=机器人&n=S5HQJ7532DA62C643&en=机器人&e=SAT82H64D8CQJT987&d=w&v=o&b=8&a=1S(Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20%21S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P3S(Limit%20major%20raise%20--%204+%20%21S%3B%2010-12%20total%20points)4D(Overcall%20--%205+%20%21D%3B%2015+%20total%20points)4S(5+%20%21S%3B%2014+%20HCP%3B%2015-20%20total%20points)D(11+%20HCP%3B%2016-%20total%20points)P4N(5+%20%21D%3B%2015+%20total%20points)PPP&p=SKS5S2S3S6C3SAC5S8D4S4D2STD5SJC4SQC6H4D7S9H2H6D9S7H3D8DTCKH5CQCAHAH8H7CJHKHTHJCTH9C2HQC8DAC9DJD3D6C7DKDQ]400|300[/hv]

 

[hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=lycier&s=S3HAK9DKJT9754CA5&wn=机器人&w=SKQJ9764HT8DQ3CK2&nn=机器人&n=S5HQJ7532DA62C643&en=机器人&e=SAT82H64D8CQJT987&d=w&v=o&b=8&a=1S(Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20%21S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P3S(Limit%20major%20raise%20--%204+%20%21S%3B%2010-12%20total%20points)D(Takeout%20double%20--%203+%20%21C%3B%203+%20%21D%3B%204+%20%21H%3B%202-%20%21S%3B%2013+%20total%20points)4S(5+%20%21S%3B%2014+%20HCP%3B%2015-20%20total%20points)PPD(3+%20%21C%3B%203+%20%21D%3B%204+%20%21H%3B%202-%20%21S%3B%2024+%20HCP%3B%2025+%20total%20points)PPP&p=HQH4H9HTDAD8DJD3S5S2S3S9S7H2STD4S8D5S6C3H6HKH8HJCAC2C4C7C5CKC6C8DQD6SADKCQD7SJH7SKH5C9D9SQD2CTDTS4H3CJHA]400|300[/hv]

Just saying.