UdcaDenny Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 I passed as N and my P overcalled 2D with 3C. As there could be a 5-3 fit in H I bid 3H waiting with my C support. My P thought I shud raise 5C to slam but I argued why didnt he bid 3S over my 3H. Then I would bid 4C and he could use 4D as blackwood. So who shudtake action to find slam ?[hv=pc=n&s=skt52hajdcaqjt953&w=sj9843hq42dqj93c7&n=sa7hk9765d852ck84&e=sq6ht83dakt764c62&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=p2d3c3d3hp5cppp]399|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 raising to slam would be absurd on your hand. your partner grossly underbid at both opportunities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akwoo Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 3♣ is a gross underbid on a 4 loser hand with no bad queens. If it goes (2♦)-X-(3/4♦)-4♥-(P)-5♣-(P) to you, presumably you'd know what to do with 2 keycards, another king and a likely useful doubleton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 3♣ is fine. After your 3♥, south has a clear 4♦ call. You can mention 4♠ and south rebids 5♦ confirming the void. 5♥ would now show the ♥K. 5♠ the ♠K. Now your 6♣ might encourage partner to bid 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 3c is fine3h natural3s normal and forcing keeps nt in the picture4c very reasonable raise 5c a bit much with 3 little diamonds4d/4n system dependent advancer inability to try 3n makes our hand golden advancer shows showing 2 keys6d strongly suspect advancer has at most 2 spades we cannot verify advancer has 4+ clubs and they cannot hold both the spade Q and thejeart K needed for a grand so we settle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UdcaDenny Posted March 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Please more comments as my P is very stubborn and says he bid very strong and think I shud go to slam with my Kxx. I think he shud double first and then bid C over my H. As the bidding went I also suggested he shud bid reverse 3Sover my 3H. Then after 4C from me he could ask for keycard or cuebid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 3♣ is ok. The hand is a tad strong for it but there is no great alternative. I wouldn't object to double, or maybe even 3♦ if discussed. 4♣ is also an option. 5♣ is probably stronger than 4♣ (I don't think 4♣ is forcing) but nevertheless 5♣ is an underbid. It is not clear what S should bid but at least 6♣ is a better bid than 5♣. You might consider raising to slam if you are sure opps can be trusted to be in a 9 card fit but I would pass anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 3C is sensible, you dont want to by pass 3NT, and although you havea 7 carder, the suit is not solid. 3H, implies somekind of club support, given that, and the fact that South hasAJ in hearts, he could make a slam try with 4D.4D is not clearly a slam try for clubs, it could also be for hearts.North, having a max. and only working values, can show the Spade control,bypassing 4H and than South can bid 6C. I am not sure, I find this seq. at the table. And for sure: I am not raising 5C to 6C as North, I have no idea, what North hasfor his 5C bid. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted April 6, 2016 Report Share Posted April 6, 2016 3c is fine3h natural3s normal and forcing keeps nt in the picture4c very reasonable raise 5c a bit much with 3 little diamonds4d/4n system dependent advancer inability to try 3n makes our hand golden advancer shows showing 2 keys6d strongly suspect advancer has at most 2 spades we cannot verify advancer has 4+ clubs and they cannot hold both the spade Q and thejeart K needed for a grand so we settle. 3 little diamonds is a lot better than Kxx in a 10 count, partner most likely has 1 or 0 now with no wastage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 3 little diamonds is a lot better than Kxx in a 10 count, partner most likely has 1 or 0 now with no wastage.that is true but I can easily see 3n vs 4c when holding Kxx dia especially as a passed hand. That really means south should realize that N has very little if anything wasted in diamonds. That is what makes the south hand so golden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Note that 3♥ shows club tolerance since North is a passed hand who apparently doesn't have a 2♥ opening (nor a responsive double on 3♦). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 I think " Who should take action is equivalent to who should be a captain.Of course, south is a captain, after 3♥, south directly bid up to 5♣, this is a imcomplete description.After 3♥, the following goes normally : 3♥ - 3♠ - 4♣ - 4♦* ......, note here there is a psychological problem, that's to say south is very worried about rebid-3♠ is non-forcing, south is pretty scared of your passing 3♠ !!!Don't blame your partner, in fact it is a matter of trust, you should know it never be a question of " who should take action".Trust is a hard thing. Good luck to both of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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