Facing Flannery

[Vampyr]

Thanks for all the helpful info. If I need an approved defens, how do I get it approved?

[Zelandakh]

Thanks for all the helpful info. If I need an approved defens, how do I get it approved?

You get on the committee and bribe the other members by offering to approve their pet methods in return for approving yours. If you are lucky and extremely dedicated it will only take 20 years or so.

[Vampyr]

You get on the committee and bribe the other members by offering to approve their pet methods in return for approving yours. If you are lucky and extremely dedicated it will only take 20 years or so.

 

Cool. The chairman is an old friend, so maybe I could manage to shave it down to 10 or 15.

[barmar]

EDIT Have found a defensive database, though. I understand that I can print it out and refer to it if my opponents use any of the methods listed? What if there are several defenses offered -- how will I know which one partner is using?

I don't know where it's written down officially, but my understanding is that you and partner can decide which one to use at the time it comes up in the auction. So RHO makes a bid, LHO alerts it and explains that it's one of these conventions. You and partner can then look at the list of defenses and agree which one to use. However, I'm not sure how much discussion you can have beside just "Let's use method #1", "No, I prefer method #2", "OK".

 

In practice, though, I think most players do this at the beginning of the round when the opponents pre-alert that they're playing the method. This way, you can have a real discussion without worrying about passing UI.

 

And if you print out the defenses for yourself ahead of time, I expect you would discuss it with partner then.

[sfi]

I forgot about the written description, but my partner did have it at the table. Not many people looked at it.

[pigpenz]

is there any place where say the convention cards of all the pairs say in the Platinum pairs is posted or for that matter any National Event(ACBL0)

[Phil]

is there any place where say the convention cards of all the pairs say in the Platinum pairs is posted or for that matter any National Event(ACBL0)

 

Not specifically but you can see many of the ccs at usbf.org.

[Mbodell]

I don't know where it's written down officially, but my understanding is that you and partner can decide which one to use at the time it comes up in the auction. So RHO makes a bid, LHO alerts it and explains that it's one of these conventions. You and partner can then look at the list of defenses and agree which one to use. However, I'm not sure how much discussion you can have beside just "Let's use method #1", "No, I prefer method #2", "OK".

 

In practice, though, I think most players do this at the beginning of the round when the opponents pre-alert that they're playing the method. This way, you can have a real discussion without worrying about passing UI.

 

And if you print out the defenses for yourself ahead of time, I expect you would discuss it with partner then.

 

You aren't really allowed to choose a defense after the situation comes up. But the opponents must have pre-alerted you, which then gives you the chance to choose a defense. Note, you are also allowed to have your own written defense, not just the pre-approved defense, if you fancy it.

[Zelandakh]

You aren't really allowed to choose a defense after the situation comes up.

Since Meckwell agreed verbally after an opp bid a multi a little while back, I would imagine it is within the possibilities for normal club players. If it were not allowed, I am confident the conversation would not have gone as reported by the vugraph operator.

[blackshoe]

"Meckwell did it, so it must be legal"?

 

Interesting. Would this apply to things like ordering the Watergate break-in? "The President did it, so it must be legal"?