PeterAlan Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 IMPs (EBU club teams night). [hv=pc=n&w=saj52ht3djt6ck984&d=e&v=n&b=2&a=p1cp1h1s2h(Alerted%3B%20shows%204%2B)3s4hpp]133|200[/hv] You're W, a good club player. Natural Acol-style bidding; the alert of S's 2♥ was just because it promises 4; S could have 4 ♣s and 4 ♥s, but will then be 15+ HCP. What calls do you consider? Which call do you make?(If you wouldn't have bid 3♠ on the previous round, please indicate.) PS: The Alert was what happened at the table - it is not required by regulation. Please don't concern yourselves with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 1) pass2) pass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pran Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 1) pass2) passAgreed. West has completely told his story. But that alert rule was funny (if it really is a regulation).In my world South would have (support) doubled with 3 hearts (and passed with less) so he must have exactly 4 since he didn't open with a 1♥ bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 Agreed. West has completely told his story. But that alert rule was funny (if it really is a regulation).In my world South would have (support) doubled with 3 hearts (and passed with less) so he must have exactly 4 since he didn't open with a 1♥ bid. It seems to me that if support doubles are being played an alert here is sensible, though I don't know whether it is required by regulation. I would consider and bid only pass, but not happily as I have badly misdescribed my hand with the 3♠ bid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 At these colors and in the passout seat, I will briefly consider 4♠ before passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 It seems to me that if support doubles are being played an alert here is sensible, though I don't know whether it is required by regulation. I would consider and bid only pass, but not happily as I have badly misdescribed my hand with the 3♠ bid. What would you rather have bid opposite a passed hand 1♠ overcall ? Also slightly relevant to this is what partner can't have (ie what a 2♠ opener would have shown, and how aggressively they open). I can't imagine bidding here, particularly if partner's pass wasn't in tempo. Yes partner might have KQxxx, xxx, xx, Qx or similar and we might have a good save available, but once I've bid 3♠ I need to live with it, if I was going to bid 4♠ I did it last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanst Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 What are the agreements on overcalls? It makes quite some difference if EW play weak jumps, in which case 1♠ shows a decent hand with values and double would certainly be an option, otherwise pass is a more than reasonable choice. But there might be players who would go to 4♠, given the vulnerability, especially when E has a habit of making very weak overcalls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 [hv=pc=n&w=saj52ht3djt6ck984&d=e&v=n&b=2&a=p1cp1h1s2h(Alerted%3B%20shows%204%2B)3s4hpp]133|200|IMPs (EBU club teams night).You're W, a good club player. Natural Acol-style bidding; the alert of S's 2♥ was just because it promises 4; S could have 4 ♣s and 4 ♥s, but will then be 15+ HCP.What calls do you consider?Which call do you make?(If you wouldn't have bid 3♠ on the previous round, please indicate.)PS: The Alert was what happened at the table - it is not required by regulation. Please don't concern yourselves with it.[/hv] Peter, you might get a wider response, it you inserted a proper poll -- preferably one where you can see who voted for what. On the previous round, you might prefer 2N to show a near maximum pass, with 4-card support, and some defence. (3♣ and 3♥ would have shown a 3-card raises, focusing on the better suit).If you had previously described your hand, you would probably choose to pass, now. Having previously misdescribed your hand, you might consider 4♠ too, now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 I would consider and bid only pass, but not happily as I have badly misdescribed my hand with the 3♠ bid.I don't think 3S is a mis-description opposite a passed-hand overcall, and I pass now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgoddard Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 What calls do you consider? Which call do you make? I consider but discard 4 Spades - I Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamford Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 I pass, only consider pass, and when I phoned a friend, Brother Anthony, he passed too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterAlan Posted January 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 My thanks to all who contributed. This thread has completely fulfilled the purpose I had in mind when I posted the OP, and I'm very grateful to you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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