apollo1201 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) [hv=pc=n&s=sq8642hk5dk984c86&n=saj95ha8742daj6c5&d=w&v=n&b=12&a=1c1h2cdp2sppp]266|200[/hv] [YES, 2♠ is N's bid but I don't manage to edit the diagram] Despite ♠K offside, 11 tricks duly made, and +200 was replicated at the other table. FWIW, I was S and on the positive side, I had a 5th trump and a fitting ♥ honor for partner, but my ♦K could be lost, I didn't have muche more than promised, and partner could be weak with 4522. So 3 against, 2 for, I passed. With the ♦A I would have proposed 3♠. So any comments are welcome! Edited January 19, 2016 by diana_eva fixed diagram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I'm guessing the diagram is wrong and the 2s bid is actually from North? in which case total blame to North 2s is a ridiculous bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I'm guessing the diagram is wrong and the 2s bid is actually from North? in which case total blame to North 2s is a ridiculous bidI also prefer double for north's first bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I think N just forgot to imagine what the south hand must look like after the x showing spades and dia. The opps have bid and raised clubs on what looks to be around 18 hcp. P will not often have much less than 8 to enter the bidding this way. We have a singleton club and a hand not too far from a max. Sure p will sometimes have the useless club K but this bidding seems to indicate that will not happen much so not being in game seems just wrong. I would bid 4s and be surprised if it did not make. For the real pessimist maybe a 3s bid will cut itbut at IMP style scoring you would have to be having a really bad day (I hear they pay a big bonus for bidding vul games). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhchung Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I usually make terse responses on the forums to hide my ignorance, but I'll try stepping out a bit here. North has a stiff, 3 aces, and knows they are in a 9 card spade fit. His Axxxx of hearts is really nice opposite a doubleton too imo. Definitely worth more than 2S. Over 2S, from south's point of view, north has some crappy 8-10 count with 3 spades. No way south can move. If north bids 3S, south knows Kx of hearts is golden and can just try and stab a game. Granted, the hands don't have to fit this well, but it must have play. North is closer to just stabbing 4S himself than bidding 2. Edit: oh I suck I thought double was 5S2H, misread the auction. See? I should've just kept it short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 N hand is worth a bit more than 14 on this auction, 3♠ rather than 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Perhaps all has been said already but another vote for 3S by N. I assume that he might have overcalled 1H on fewer points and his 2S bid does not show anything extra since ha has to bid something over the double. So, imo, 3S is surely warranted and 2S could be on much less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Mainly I blame the opponents for only bidding to the 2-level with a 10-card fit. ;) Secondmost blame goes to North - while perhaps a tad light for 3♠ it is a better description of his hand than 2♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 N must have not seen one of those aces, maybe the D ace. Easy 3S bid for me and the responsive dble has an easy raise. I would not fault 4S but feel it would be punishing partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Yu Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 What does X show? If it is 44+ pointed suited I don't think I want to venture 3S yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAVENDERi Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Of course N 100% First, the 1st bid of north was a take-out double. The most important of bidding is to find the fit of two but not just the suit of one. North seemed like a selfish player. Secondly with your responsive double, north should jump his bid to 3S instead of a passive responce 2S which promised 9+pts and 3+spades only. Didn't he know he had 4 good support and 14hcp and a useful singleton on opps' suit? North doesn't know bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Of course N 100%North doesn't know bridge. Overbid of the year decade. Overcalling 1♥ planning on doubling when/if 2♣ comes back to you is a legitimate style debated with a close split in previous threads. The idea is that if you catch partner with something like a 3-3-4-3 double gets you to diamonds. Hardly selfish if you both play it. Playing that style makes north worth a 3♠ bid here but it's probably a common error to get a little lazy or even have a partner like mine that accepts 99.9% of all invites. Not knowing which (and the opponents inspired silence) makes my vote mostly north instead of 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo1201 Posted January 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Thanks all for your comments and double thanks to Diana who kindly updated the diagram. She is always so nice to everyone ♥! I am posting anysoon another one from the pair competition, with a braver partner as you will see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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