balancing in a new suit by a semipositive

[straube]

After a semipositive response to strong club and a preempt by RHO, should new suits by responder be forcing in the balancing position?

 

Here's one for us.....1C* P 1H* (3D) P P 3H where 3H shows 5+S/4+H and 2 to 5 QPs.

 

Not sure the equivalent for Moscito, but maybe...

 

1C* P 1N* (2H) P P 3C where 3C shows 5+S/4+C and 3-5 QPs.

 

The responses aren't unlimited and that argues for making these bids nf, but it's possible for responder to have sufficient strength/hcps to intend to force game.

[rbforster]

I would think it was competitive and NF, absent some special reason to think otherwise - you've already got a pretty narrow values range shown and I would think opener with extras to GF would have been forced to act but didn't in the case. Sounds like a part score auction to me.

 

I guess it depends on your style of what to do with a semi positive values hand that has enough shape to force to game. I would normally upgrade to a GF and let partner worry later I might be light on values if he relays out an extreme shape, but I understand others prefer a more purist approach on min QPs, etc.

[straube]

Thanks, Rob. That was my inclination, but we do have hands that want to force game and presumably these would have to underbid or double or...

[foobar]

I would think it was competitive and NF, absent some special reason to think otherwise - you've already got a pretty narrow values range shown and I would think opener with extras to GF would have been forced to act but didn't in the case. Sounds like a part score auction to me.

 

+1...given responder can cue, X or blast to game, there's sufficient ammo to argue for NF.