foobar Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 We haven't tried signing off in 4m yet, but I think this will be a very rare option after the terminator. It's a small side benefit. Actually, a better way to see it might be to see the first step as a compressed QP ask. As a corollary, there shouldn't be an option to stop on a dime, especially the compressed ask, i.e, a change that goes along with it is that the second step should a terminator in the more classic sense of the term. 3H-Compressed QP ask3S-Terminator3N-RKC H4C-RKC S4D-RKC C4H-RKC D Note that another possibility is that use of the terminator when a compressed ask is available can be used to indicate that the relay captain is at the bottom end of the QP range and / or the hands don't mesh well. On marginal hands, the slave hand may use it as a hint on deciding whether to super accept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted January 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 We're trying out grouping our two lowest QP possibilities into one response. For instance, for a positive response, our two lowest would be 6 or 7. I've always disliked how grouping the two lowest could result in such absurdity as.... 3D pattern completion3H QP ask3S 6 or 74C argh, I have to waste a step to continue4D 64H argh, I want to sign off in 4H We're trying these rules now and so far they seem to work... Pattern ends at 3S or 3N 3N-is to play, but partner has the option to super-accept with 2 over base....except for a balanced hand of known range or a semipositive4C-QP ask not interested in play in 4H.....4D-two lowest.....etc4D-QP ask with interest in play in 4H.....4H-two lowest.....etc4M-to play.....super-accept requires 3 over base (because partner has shown disinterest in 2 over base)4N-invitational5m-to play Pattern ends at 3H 3S-QP ask.....3N-two lowest..........4C-asks, not interested in play in 4H...............4D-base...............etc-zooming with base +1..........4D-asks, interested in play in 4H...............4H-base...............zooming with base +1..........4M-to play..........4N-invitational..........5m-to play3N-to play.....super-accepts with base +2 when allowedetc-RKC HSCD Pattern ends at 3D 3H-QP ask.....3S-third lowest..........3N-asking.....3N-two lowest..........4C-asking..........4D-asking, interested in 4H play..........4M-to play..........etc.....4C-fourth lowest.....etc3S-terminator.....3N-accepting puppet..........4m-to play..........etc-to play.....other-super-accepting base + 2 when allowedetc-RKC HSCD Pattern ends at 3C As for 3D but a step lower. The two lowest still are shown at 3N When RKCing, we're using 0314 for positive/strong slaves and 0, 1, 1 with Q, 2 for semipositive slaves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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