dorisga44 Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 [hv=pc=n&s=sakqjt6ha532dj64c&n=s82h8dat982ckqj86]133|200[/hv] Contract 6♠ by South - imps, no interference during bidding Lead ♥K, plan your play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Win the ace of heartsruff a heartruff a clubruff a heartlead the king of clubs if covered, i ruff, draw trump, and cross with a diamond and pitch my last heart and a diamond on good clubs if not covered, i pitch a heart 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Ditto hrothgar. Thinking of it another way, 6 trumps in hand + 2 red aces + 2 heart ruffs + 2 clubs = 12 tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Win the ace of heartsruff a heartruff a clubruff a heartlead the king of clubs if covered, i ruff, draw trump, and cross with a diamond and pitch my last heart and a diamond on good clubs if not covered, i pitch a heart In retrospect, I think that its better to win the Ace of hearts and hook a diamond on the second trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alok c Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Take HA & ruff a heart.Take ruffing finesse on club discarding diamond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Ditto hrothgar. Thinking of it another way, 6 trumps in hand + 2 red aces + 2 heart ruffs + 2 clubs = 12 tricks. The problem is if the CA is offside you won't get 2 club tricks, LHO will win and return a diamond and you are finished even on 4-4 clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 The problem is if the CA is offside you won't get 2 club tricks, LHO will win and return a diamond and you are finished even on 4-4 clubs. Sadly, I didn't figure this out until 4 minutes after my initial post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Take HA & ruff a heart.Take ruffing finesse on club discarding diamond. In real life unless we showed a club void during the bidding how could RHO duck the ace of clubs? Surely if we take this line and they play low on the club K we should revert to ruffing it and playing a diamond. A heads up LHO will put in the K or the Q from Hx but sometimes they will have Hxx and we'll be alright (and depending on the opps often they won't put in an H from Hx). I think this is a superior line to playing a diamond at trick 2 since I will make when RHO has the CA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorisga44 Posted December 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 In real life unless we showed a club void during the bidding how could RHO duck the ace of clubs? Surely if we take this line and they play low on the club K we should revert to ruffing it and playing a diamond. A heads up LHO will put in the K or the Q from Hx but sometimes they will have Hxx and we'll be alright (and depending on the opps often they won't put in an H from Hx). I think this is a superior line to playing a diamond at trick 2 since I will make when RHO has the CA. OK, good point - I (as south) did bid 5♣ which was explained as a cue bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRTRUB44 Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 [hv=pc=n&s=sakqjt6ha532dj64c&n=s82h8dat982ckqj86]133|200[/hv] Contract 6♠ by South - imps, no interference during bidding Lead ♥K, plan your play.If either clubs or hearts split badly (six two or worse) or the club Ace is on your left you are in trouble. My (non expert) take on only chance - Ace of hearts, ruff a heartLead King of clubs, planning to throw diamond loser. Ruff if covered with AceLead Queen of clubs if still in dummy, throwing another diamond if not covered.if LHO covers with club Ace, there is a trump left in dummy for a last entry - even if LHO leads back diamond.If RHO covers with Ace, after ruff there are two entries in dummy.This line seems to give some sort of chance of making, although much can go wrong - both unexpected ruff and running out of entries to dummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 [hv=pc=n&s=sakqjt6ha532dj64c&n=s82h8dat982ckqj86]133|200|Contract 6♠ by South - imps, no interference during biddingLead ♥K, plan your play. [/hv] IMOAgainst good defenders, Hrothgar's 1st line seems better: ♥A. Ruff a ♥. Ruff a ♣. Ruff a ♥. Ruff-finesse ♣K (chuck a ♥ unless RHO plays ♣A).. If LHO has ♣A and exits in ♦, then you need a 4-4 ♣ split. The ♦ lines usually need a 3-2 ♦ break. Also, as PhantomSac points out, if LHO plays a ♦ honour, then, at best, declarer is on a nasty guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rhm Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 The problem is if the CA is offside you won't get 2 club tricks, LHO will win and return a diamond and you are finished even on 4-4 clubs.Why does it not make if clubs are 4-4? Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovera Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 I think may be a possibilty if there is almost a top honor in diamond toghether A of club: how said double ruffing H/C then draw trump but one, ♦ J running .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Bridge always turns out to be harder than it seems at first. http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Why does it not make if clubs are 4-4? Rainer Herrmann I have no idea lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 I have no idea lolIf as you claim LHO returns a diamond after the club ace and clubs are 4-4, declarer wins in dummy and gets 2 club tricks. 2 heart ruffs, 2 clubs, 2 red aces and 6 trumps add up to 12. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 If as you claim LHO returns a diamond after the club ace and clubs are 4-4, declarer wins in dummy and gets 2 club tricks. 2 heart ruffs, 2 clubs, 2 red aces and 6 trumps add up to 12. Rainer Herrmann What does a reply of "I have no idea" to "why does it not make if clubs are 4-4" mean to you lol. I don't know why I thought it didn't make if clubs are 4-4, I was out to lunch sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanoff Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 What does a reply of "I have no idea" to "why does it not make if clubs are 4-4" mean to you lol. I don't know why I thought it didn't make if clubs are 4-4, I was out to lunch sorry. It doesn't matter, Rainer makes mistakes in the play as well - who doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinarius Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Line 1. Heart Ace,Heart ruff,Club ruff,Heart ruff,Club King..... If covered, you ruff. If not, you discard a heart. West returns a diamond (if he wins the Ace Clubs)and now Clubs have to be no worse than 5/3 for two discards. Also, Hearts have to be no worse than 5/3 for the two ruffs. You then make 12 tricks. Line 2. The Diamond pips are superb. But, you have 8 of them. So, is 4/1 or 5/0 more likely than a favourable 5/3 (in two suits)in line 1.? If not, then I finesse a diamond at trick two. I think the odds might be better in line 2. though. The % of a 5/3 split in Hearts and Clubs above is 47% each, individually. But, for BOTH suits to behave must be slightly less than that. The % for Diamonds to be 3/2 is 68%. In addition, for just one of the honours to be right must be very high. I favour Line 2. D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 It doesn't matter, Rainer makes mistakes in the play as well - who doesn't. Yes, but I'm pretty sure the last was when Clinton was president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 It doesn't matter, Rainer makes mistakes in the play as well - who doesn't.It doesn't matter, Rainer was going to explain it whatever he answered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creatbid Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 If south draws trumps from all the others, he will at most have 3 losers on hearts and 2 losers on diamonds. So he should avoid 4 possible losers at least for the slam. He ruffes H2 by S2 after ruffing the lead, ruffes a low club by S6 and ruffes H3 by S8. He plays CK and ruffes by S10 if ruffed by CA of east. If not, discard H5 and play CQ ruffing by S10 if ruffed by east or discard D4 if not. Now he has the only one loser on diamonds, and goes on to draw trumps. He makes the slam unless one opp has 5cards on spades. Of course, if he succeeds to draw CA by CQ, he can ruff the only loser by CJ and the slam will be made even after west ruffes it. If CK is ruffed by west, he will be likely to play HQ. By this way south can draw trumps, cross to dummy by DA and discard his low diamonds by CQ&CJ. West never ducks CA to let south discard another red loser. But if west breaks diamonds after ruffing CK, south will ruff by DA, ruff his low diamonds by CQ&CJ and draw trumps. Whether south succeeds, he always discards his hearts before his diamonds. Because the low hearts are absolutely losers while diamonds are just possible losers. He avoids 1 loser when DK or DQ is ruffed by DA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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