Yet another rebid problem

[Walddk]

At IMPs you, as opener, hold

 

♠ 9

♥ AQ85

♦ J10875

♣ AKJ

 

1♦ - 1♠

??

 

What is your rebid and why? Would it have been an option for you to open a "naughty" 1NT?

 

Roland

[flytoox]

2C. 1N distorted both strength and shape. 2H is an overbid.

[han]

agree.

[Free]

I like to play reverses from 15+hcp, so 2♥. If you need more power, I'd chose for 2♣...

[luke warm]

2H but it's on the cusp (k/r show it as 16+)... this is one where you'd probably say "damn, why am i not playing canape like jimmy told me too" :)

[HeartA]

1NT for me. 15 hcp, but honors in short suits, non-fit for pd's suit.

[oldgun]

I prefer 1NT too,waiting pd 's rebid,if pd bid sth, i will push it to game

[joker_gib]

1NT : must have 2♠

2♣ = 4 cards

2♥ = reverse

 

So by elimination, even if the suit is not good : 2♦

[cherdano]

1NT : must have 2♠

2♣ = 4 cards

2♥ = reverse

 

So by elimination, even if the suit is not good : 2♦

I think my clubs are closer to a 4-card suit than my diamonds to a good 5 card suit (partner expects 6). 2♣ for me as well.

 

Arend

[joker_gib]

I think my clubs are closer to a 4-card suit than my diamonds to a good 5 card suit (partner expects 6).

Sorry but my partner only expects 5♦ if I have 4♥ ! B)

 

I know the clubs are good but I tend to almost (not always possible) never lie on the nbr of cards. By the way I really don't see why you should lie on that auction.

 

If my partner has a cathedral (a big hand, as we say here), I don't want to play 6♣ in 4-3 fit ! :)

[the hog]

I have no problem with rebidding 1NT. Not good enough by far to reverse, and the Ds are far too weak to bid 2D. Pd will overvalue Qx of D.

[Fluffy]

1NT : must have 2♠

2♣ = 4 cards

2♥ = reverse

 

So by elimination, even if the suit is not good : 2♦

Any other second round bidding 'problem' I agree with Alain.

 

♦ are bad, so maybe sometime I will feel like better to show an under limit reverse, after all we have good conceentrated values, just on the wrong suits :-P.

[joker_gib]

1NT : must have 2♠

2♣ = 4 cards

2♥ = reverse

 

So by elimination, even if the suit is not good : 2♦

Any other second round bidding 'problem' I agree with Alain.

 

♦ are bad, so maybe sometime I will feel like better to show an under limit reverse, after all we have good conceentrated values, just on the wrong suits :-P.

Tks Gonzalo, I was feeling alone ;) :D

[P_Marlowe]

2D, the suit is ugly, but it is a 5

card suit, a bad one, but I did not

promise a good one.

 

Marlowe

[hrothgar]

NASTY problem (congratulations) - All rebids are badly flawed.

 

2♦ is unthinkable with a bad 5 card suit

2♣ suggests 5-4 in the minors (and typically suggests 5 Diamonds)

The strength is wrong for 1NT (the hand evaluates as a 16.2 count)

The hand isn't strong enough for a reverse

 

At the table, I would have opened 1♦.

In retrospect, I think that a 1NT OPENING is the right call.

[Chamaco]

I voted for 2C, as others here.

 

- 2H: In order to reverse I want to guarantee no less than 5-5.5 losers, and the hand is 6 losers (1 spade, 1.5 heart, 3 diamonds, 0.5 clubs) so it does not qualify.

 

-2D: Suit rebid is ugly.

 

-1NT: I like to guarantee 2 cards in pd suit if I rebid NT: if I bid NT, by system agreement, pard with 5 spades and a weak hand will almost invariably rebid his suit counting on a 5-2 or better fit.

So the hand does not qualify for a NT rebid.

 

All in all, it seems we all agree the hand needs to be distorted, and "promting" AKJ to a 5 bagger does not look that bad, IMO.

[whereagles]

I would bid 2C, 2D or 2H depending on the situation at table.

[inquiry]

I would never reverse into 2H. My hand has decreased in value due to partners 1S response, not increased. I will not be in a hurry to bid 1NT here. It misdescribes my shape, and since my preferred 1NT opening bid range is 14-15 it GREATLY distorts my stregth.

 

On hand like this, I would open 1H, and rebid 2D. Yes even playing five card majors. If partner takes a "preference" back to 2H, I will rebid 2NT (since I have no desire to play in a 4-2 fit, 4-3 I don't worry too much about).

 

Sometimes, you have to be prepared for your rebid. With this hand, you have to prepare for the most likely response (1S) by your partner BEFORE your first bid. You can do this by either opening (as roland says), a nasty 1NT (one spade short), or in my case, a nasty 1H (one heart short). The advantage of opening 1H is you don't lose the heart suit. If I had "slipped up" and opened this 1D, I would rebid 2C (now lying about club length by one card).

 

Here are similar hands I opened 1H on...

 

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West North East South

 

 -     -     1♥    1♠

 2♥    Pass  Pass  Pass

 

Partner was a little strong for his two heart bid here. I made two overtricks, but we still won imps

  [/hv]

 

 

 

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West North East South

 

 -     -     1♥    1♠

 2♥    Pass  Pass  Pass

 

Partner was a little strong for his two heart bid here. I made two overtricks, but we still won imps

  [/hv]

 

On both hands I choose to stretch the truth and open 1H because I have no easy rebid over a 1♠ response by partner. Although on the first hand, I will admit that the best bid is to open 1C and rebid 2C over 1S by partner or reopen with double over 1S by LHO.

[pclayton]

For the first 20 years of my bridge career I was a proud member of the 2♣ "club".

 

I am a recent and joyous convert to the church of 1N rebid on these problem hands.

 

2♦ isn't an option for me, nor is 2♥. 2♦ virtually guarantees 6, or a real good 5. 2♥ on a non-prime, potentially misfit is unappealing.

 

A 1N rebid on these hands fits real nicely into the "raise partner's major with 3" philosophy. Why? Partner won't frequently rebid a 5 card suit after 1N, since we frequently deny 3 when we rebid 1N. Ergo, a 1N rebid on these patterns is 'safer'.

 

2♣ is still OK, but I don't like the idea of getting my large trump hit with spade leads.

[beatrix45]

:)

 

This auction is not working out at all. Seems to me that 1NT is an offshape underbid, two hearts is a considerable overbid, and two clubs seriously misrepresents my hand and is essentially a cowardly attempt to win an argument in the postmortem.

 

Since the one spade response worsens my hand, I think that the one NT underbid is best choice. I have one HCP and the ten of diamonds more than advertised, but no spade fit and my long suit is topless and may not be a source of tricks. In today's world, the stiff spade won't be that unexpected.

 

Trixie