Second Verse, Same as the First

[Bbradley62]

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I'd like to suggest that my second action should show something more than my first action did.

 

I'd also like to ask what I should have done with my hand. (4NT over 3♠ was undefined, in case that occurs to anyone, and it didn't occur to me to preview the meaning of a second double.)

[iandayre]

I agree on all counts. Certainly forcing to the 5 level is stronger than doubling 3S. And I would have bid it exactly as you did. 4NT seems perfect, lots of offense, more minor suit orientation than a second double would imply.

[1eyedjack]

Agree to the points raised.

 

Separate issue, I don't like that X denies a 5th Heart.

[lycier]

(4NT over 3♠ was undefined, in case that occurs to anyone, and it didn't occur to me to preview the meaning of a second double.)

 

Yes.

 

All of 4NT over opening bids at one level are undefined.

All of 4NT over opening bids at three level are undefined.

 

Let's listen to what Barmar said :

 

Programming the rules for bidding is incredibly complicated. The part of GIB that implements its bidding rules is over 6,000 lines in an incredibly compact language (not including over 2500 lines of comments explaining what's going on in the code lines).