wank Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 [hv=pc=n&s=saj97432had5cj732&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=2hpp]133|200[/hv] imps. if it makes any difference, opps are not very good technical players, but are cheating in some way you've not worked out yet (think Ron Schwartz x 2). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 2♠ any conditions. Although, 4♠ is tempting with ops stopping in 2♥ - partner probably has something useful for me. I don't think the opponents cheating influences this, other than to give me the feeling that there is no winning call because they will always make the right decision. I wonder if honest pros felt this way against FS and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 2 ♠ for me also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 Genuinely would not consider anything other than 2S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 there has to a punchline surely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted December 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 there has to a punchline surely [hv=pc=n&s=saj97432had4cj765&w=sqt65hj86543da65c&n=skhkq92dq8732cq98&e=s8ht7dkjt9cakt432&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=2hpp4sppdpprppp]399|300[/hv]not really. my partner bid 4 and it got doubled by RHO, and I redoubled holding K KQxx qxxxx qxx. this was -600 when they underled the A of D at t1 (-200 on a heart lead). i thought my partner's 4s was rather excessive, whereas others didn't approve of my redouble (well yeah, i was on tilt by this point). neither of my teamies agreed with me about bidding 2S in the passout seat. considering we had a Bermuda Bowl gold medalist (4s) and a Olympiad silver medalist (3s) at the other table, it seemed like I might well be talking out of my arse, hence wanting more opinions. fwiw (not a lot, just a good whine) a few other good decisions from the opps in this match:- [hv=pc=n&e=s652h8654dak3ca54&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=p1c1nppd]133|200[/hv] after opening this prime 11, opp 1 found a reopening double of 1NT. his partner, who didn't double, had a 9 count. we went for 500. [hv=pc=n&e=s8ha832dkj9432ct3&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=p1c2s(13-16%20if%20no%20extra%20shape)3d4h(fit)d4s5d]133|200[/hv] opp repeated his kj9xxx suit at the 5 level at red. we didn't double (i should have done, but by now i had the feeling that whatever they had, they'd made the right decision in the bidding) but it's 1 off against 4s making. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 4 ♠ seems like a pretty extreme bid to me. South does have some information available when two passes occur after the 2 ♥ bid. First, RHO (East) didn't raise which implies probably no more than a couple ♥. That would seem to put 4 ♥ in the North hand. Second, North was unable to find a bid over 2 ♥. Holding some ♥ length, the hand may not be suitable for a double with shortness in one of the outside suits, or, just not enough values to bid. The pass also denies a suit and values to overcall. With partner's deduced ♥ length, the pass also denies enough for a NT bid. The one thing that the auction doesn't tell is how the remaining values in the hand are distributed. RHO could have a good hand, but not enough to raise ♥ to game with a doubleton. Depending on how aggressively LHO bid 2 ♥, it seems like anywhere from 19-25 HCP could out there between partner's and RHO's hands. Assuming an even split, partner might have somewhere between 9-13 HCP in hand. 13 might be enough for game with a fit, but 9 certainly isn't. So, 2 ♠ seems like a more prudent bid. If partner makes any noise, then South might consider bidding on. Even being completely shell shocked, redoubling just can't be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 [hv=pc=n&s=saj97432had5cj732&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=2hpp]133|200|imps. if it makes any difference, opps are not very good technical players, but are cheating in some way you've not worked out yet (think Ron Schwartz x 2).[/hv] Agree that 2♠ seems sensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRW Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Agree that 2♠ seems sensible. Well yes, and 4♠ minus something seems self inflicted and redoubled, sorry for the pun, doubly so. However the X and the underlead of ♦A look suss to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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