Zelandakh Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 'You know how Einstein got bad grades in school? Well mine are even worse'.Just to point out that the idea that Einstein was a poor student (usually that he failed maths) is a myth. He was an exceptional student. He did have problems with authoritarian teachers and failed in some peripheral subjects on his first university entrance exam at 16. He then changed to a different school and achieved top grades in all subjects except French at 17. Also, the quotation "It is not enough to be a good player, you must also play well" is from Tarrasch rather than Tartakower. And finally, everyone knows that the only way to be respected on the internet is to be a smartass! B-) :lol: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Also, the quotation "It is not enough to be a good player, you must also play well" is from Tarrasch rather than Tartakower.How do you know? I found sources for both online, which is why I mentioned both.https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Siegbert_Tarraschhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savielly_Tartakower True, the second one has no direct source, so Tarrasch seems more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Because it has been linked with Tarrasch since the 19th century and only with Tartakower since Wikipedia? It is simple, someone made a mistake on the wiki entry. Happens all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 Because it has been linked with Tarrasch since the 19th century and only with Tartakower since Wikipedia? It is simple, someone made a mistake on the wiki entry. Happens all the time.OK I was trying to ask for your original source out of curiosity, maybe wasn't clear. Do you have it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 OK I was trying to ask for your original source out of curiosity, maybe wasn't clear. Do you have it?The earliest origin I know of is Leipzig 1888, with the specific quote being: "Ich sah ein, dass es nicht genügt, ein guter Spieler zu sein, sondern dass man gut spielen muss". It was later reported in the more familiar form, both in the German Vienna 1898 book ("Es ist nicht genug, dass man ein guter Spieler ist, man muss auch gut spielen") and the August 1898 copy of American Chess Magazine ("It is not sufficient to be a good chessplayer, one must play good chess"). Given that Tartakower was born in 1887, it would have been quite the story for him to be the original! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 I wasn't arguing for Tartakower at all, I was just wondering how you were so sure. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 It is not enough to be someone who plays well, you must also play well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 I wasn't arguing for Tartakower at all, I was just wondering how you were so sure. Thanks.No problem, it is a good idea to check almost everything you read on the internet. We actually had the quote come up on BBF 5 or more years ago so the basics of the origin were still in my mind - I did need to refresh myself on the exact details though. B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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