UdcaDenny Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Many times I disagree with the TD in my club in Chiangmai. The latest issue is about not alerting doubles and redoubles. If you click the link below you can read about it. Lets say my partner overcall 1♥ with 1♠ and next opponent bids 2♥. If I double that to show minimum 5-5 in the unbid suits shudnt that be alerted. My partner knows something opponents dont know but our TD says that its not alertable. Also the opponent can double my partners overcall and I can redouble to show A or K so my partner know he can underlead his Ace if in lead. I think my redouble shud be alerted. http://www.bridgewebs.com/chiangmai/page39.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Many times I disagree with the TD in my club in Chiangmai. The latest issue is about not alerting doubles and redoubles. If you click the link below you can read about it. Lets say my partner overcall 1♥ with 1♠ and next opponent bids 2♥. If I double that to show minimum 5-5 in the unbid suits shudnt that be alerted. My partner knows something opponents dont know but our TD says that its not alertable. Also the opponent can double my partners overcall and I can redouble to show A or K so my partner know he can underlead his Ace if in lead. I think my redouble shud be alerted. http://www.bridgewebs.com/chiangmai/page39.html No doubles being alertable is a dreadful regulation. I think that if your agreemen is unusual, though, alerting anyway is probably the right thing to do. The Rosencranz redouble is probably sufficiently well-known that in the given regulatory climate you shouldn't alert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgm Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 I guess it is similar to the WBF alerting policy, where players should not alert DBL and RDBL during the bidding process without the use of screen. If your side becomes the declarer side, you can explain that to your opponent during the clarification period. It would be better if you have CC along with you, and you may pre-alert when you meet your opponent before the start of that round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 I am no big fan of those alert regulations ("Announce 'transfer' without saying what it is a transfer to", WTF?) but at least the club made am effort to make some reasonably concise alert regulations so I think you just have to live with it. Ask opps to pre-alert any unusual dbls or redoubles. The first double you describes is normaly played as negative. It is a bit unusual to have it show 5-5 in the minors specifically but I think that here it is more important to alert the pass ("could be a hand on which most normal people would double such as 2-2-5-4 10-count") than to alert the double. Anyway, the regs say you don't alert so you don't alert. From what I have seen you post previously from that club it sounds like the club has bigger problems than this. BTW I pressume the TD is a volunteer and that it is a multinational club in a country without a resourceful local bridge federation so I think it is prudent to tolerate a bit of amateurism. Hopefully it is a pleasant club to play at nonetheless. I will surely visit next time I come to Chian Mai :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UdcaDenny Posted December 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 I am no big fan of those alert regulations ("Announce 'transfer' without saying what it is a transfer to", WTF?) but at least the club made am effort to make some reasonably concise alert regulations so I think you just have to live with it. Ask opps to pre-alert any unusual dbls or redoubles. The first double you describes is normaly played as negative. It is a bit unusual to have it show 5-5 in the minors specifically but I think that here it is more important to alert the pass ("could be a hand on which most normal people would double such as 2-2-5-4 10-count") than to alert the double. Anyway, the regs say you don't alert so you don't alert. From what I have seen you post previously from that club it sounds like the club has bigger problems than this. BTW I pressume the TD is a volunteer and that it is a multinational club in a country without a resourceful local bridge federation so I think it is prudent to tolerate a bit of amateurism. Hopefully it is a pleasant club to play at nonetheless. I will surely visit next time I come to Chian Mai :)Helen, in that case it happened to be the minors but its offcource 5-5 in the two unbid suits. Its a nice friendly club with people from UK, USA, France, Holland, Scandinavia and more. You are very welcome to visit. Notice me if you will somtimes in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 By the way, I do not think reducing the number of alerts is not a reasonable goal for a regulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UdcaDenny Posted December 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Also consider if someone doubles on the one level for penalty when 99% use that as negative I think that must be alerted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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