Fluffy Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 [hv=pc=n&s=sakjhkt98da862cjt&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1cp1hp2hp2sp3sp]266|200[/hv] 2♥ guarantees 4♥.2♠ is natural trial bid (I was planning to suggest 3NT later hoping partner would accept with 3♦ and reject with 2)3♠ is natural... What do you expect from partner?. EDIT: partner open 1♣, I had 1♦ originally-. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Probably some 4441 or 3451 GF hand, but opposite a random, I'm probably going to be surprised. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akwoo Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I expect exactly Qxxx in spades, with almost any possible strength consistent with the 2♥ bid (though possibly not a very quacky balanced minimum). You're worth a 4♦ slam try in case partner has the perfect ♠Qxxx ♥AQxx ♦KQxx ♣x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) Presumably whatever hands he can have that are 4-4 in the majors in your system, although personally I'd just bid 4♥ with all such hands. It should be forcing, because you might be 3-5 in the majors. [Edited after rereading the OP.] Edited December 1, 2015 by gnasher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Sorry partner open 1♣, not 1♦, hope it doesn't change the meaning much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I expect 4 spades, not minimum. See also http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/19242-123/page__st__40__p__193447#entry193447 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 OP states the 2♥ raise guaranteed 4 pieces. If it also showed a minimum opening bid, I would pay off to all the magic seekers --- bid 4♥ instead of starting some torture --- and get on with the play of the hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balrog49 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 It's a "picture bid." Partner is showing spade honors and shortness in diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 I have a completely different view. If partner wanted to make a pattern picture bid, he could splinter. Instead, he is simply cuebidding, with enough for game but cooperative in case your real interest is slam. By my personal cuebidding rules, he would have the spade Queen, the heart Ace and Queen, no diamond Ace King or shortness, and not two top clubs. Thus, my guess might be, say, Qxx-AQxx-Qx-Axxx. Not interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Partner obviously accepts a game try.But with shortage in diamonds and enough to accept he should have splintered instead, in case you have the hand you hold. So partner should be 4♠=4♥=2♦=3♣ Under those conditions I do not think that 3NT is a sensible option even if partner's hearts are poor. You obviously do not have enough to suggest slam. Just bid 4♥ Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboxley Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 [hv=pc=n&s=sakjhkt98da862cjt&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1cp1hp2hp2sp3sp]266|200[/hv] 2♥ guarantees 4♥.2♠ is natural trial bid (I was planning to suggest 3NT later hoping partner would accept with 3♦ and reject with 2)3♠ is natural... What do you expect from partner?. EDIT: partner open 1♣, I had 1♦ originally-. Enough to make 6♥, not enough to make 7 a good bet. I bid 4♦ now, just in case he is off the ♣ AK. If he now bids 4♥ I will continue with 4♠ to give it one more try. The JT of clubs are great cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Enough to make 6♥, not enough to make 7 a good bet. I bid 4♦ now, just in case he is off the ♣ AK. If he now bids 4♥ I will continue with 4♠ to give it one more try. The JT of clubs are great cards.Partner gave only a single raise showing a minimum opening bid with 4♥ and did not splinter over 2♠. Can you construct a hand where 6♥ is s great contract on a diamond lead? Rainer Herrmann 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 It's pretty normal for 3S to show 4 pieces looking for a 44 fit instead of a 54. Obviously it shows a maximum too although I'm not too sure about diamond shortness - presumably 4423 is a possibility. Qxxx aqxx xx Aqx is clearly within range but with a likely diamond lead this hand plays awkwardly although a stiff D is good news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 It's pretty normal for 3S to show 4 pieces looking for a 44 fit instead of a 54. Obviously it shows a maximum too although I'm not too sure about diamond shortness - presumably 4423 is a possibility. Qxxx aqxx xx Aqx is clearly within range but with a likely diamond lead this hand plays awkwardly although a stiff D is good news.If you have 44 in the majors and a singleton diamond I would always want to play in the 5-4 fit, which is much safer, knowing that the short hand ruffs anyway. It is a myth to believe that a 4-4 fit always plays better. Meanwhile telling partner that you are really short in a side suit is usually very valuable to your partner. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 3♠ was 4-4 majors for sure, the question was if you though it should be 4414 12 count or a 4423 14 count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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