biggerclub Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 For a discussion on whether Suction is GCC compliant or not see here. GCC states:. . . b) natural no trump opening bids and overcalls, except that direct calls,other than the following, must have at least one known suit. - Double - Two Clubs - Two Diamonds showing a one suited hand in hearts or spades So (1NT) and then: x = transfer to ♣ but if then ♦ = red suits, or ♥ = ♥ + ♣ or ♠ = ♠ + ♣ (weakish)2♣ = transfer to ♦ but if then ♥ = MAJs or ♠ = ♠ + ♦ (weakish)2♦ = one suited ♥s or ♠s2♥ = ♥ + minor (INV)2♠ = ♠ + minor (INV)2NT = minors Over strong ♣ bids (1 or 2): x = transfer to ♦ but if then ♥ = MAJs or ♠ = ♠ + minor (weakish)♦ = transfer to ♥ but if then ♠ = ♠ + minor (stronger)♥ = transfer to ♠ but if then NT or ♣ = minors (strong/weak)♠ = transfer to ♣ but if then ♦ = red suitsNT = relay to better minor with 6-5 or better distribution in any two suits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitlynne Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 I don't think you have interpreted the regulatory guidelines of the GCC properly. As I read it, any conventional defensive bid after a strong (15+ HCP), artificial, and forcing opening bid (e.g., Precision 1C) is allowed. Numbered paragraphs 7 and 8 under the COMPETITIVE section say this is so. Number 7 says that (all) defenses to conventional calls (with some exceptions) are allowed. A strong, artificial, and forcing 1C opening is a conventional call and it is not an exception specified by the referenced other regulations. Furthermore, Number 8 says that numbered paragraphs 4 through 10 under RESPONSES AND REBIDS apply to both pairs. You will note that numbered paragraph 7 under RESPONSES AND REBIDS specifically allows all artificial and conventional calls after a Precision-like 1C opening. Under the GCC, you can play ANYTHING you want after a strong, artificial, and forcing 1C opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Under the GCC, you can play ANYTHING you want after a strong, artificial, and forcing 1C opening.The OP was asking about bidding over a 1NT opening as well. I assume that the regulation you quoted does not apply there. Is it possible to avoid the problem by not playing in GCC games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Is it possible to avoid the problem by not playing in GCC games?Probably, but 99% (at least) of duplicate games in North America are GCC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Probably, but 99% (at least) of duplicate games in North America are GCC. If it's a club game, you could apply to the management to allow a method. I think that most clubs would be amenable; they may require a write-up posted in advance. This is how eg forcing pass is played in clubs around here. At tournaments I think that there are always non-GCC events available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 At tournaments I think that there are always non-GCC events available? I haven't laughed this hard in days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I haven't laughed this hard in days Good that such little things amuse Hrothgar :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 If it's a club game, you could apply to the management to allow a method. I think that most clubs would be amenable; they may require a write-up posted in advance. This is how eg forcing pass is played in clubs around here. At tournaments I think that there are always non-GCC events available?At Nationals, yes. At lower levels, depends on the District. In District 4 (Central NY, Eastern PA, MD, DE), no. at least not in my part of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 You could probably improve this by having X->2♠ show 4♠,5+♣ and 2♣->2♠ show 4♠,5+♦. This allows the 2♠ overcall to promise a 5 card spade suit. You could of course do the same with X->2♥, making it 4♥,5+m (and the 2♥ overcall in turn promise 5 hearts) with another possibility having both X->2♥ and 2♣->2♥ show the majors with one showing better hearts and the other showing better spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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