m1cha Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Imp , White Vs Red[hv=pc=n&s=sjt972h2dq98762c2&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=1cp?]133|200[/hv]This one is easy: If you have a fit, your hand is strong and you should bid. If you don't have a fit, your hand is weak and you should pass. ;) On a more serious note, just think of what will happen if you bid or if you pass. Certainly you don't want to miss a ♠ fit. But if you bid now, partner's most likely rebids are ♥s, ♣s and NT. You don't like any of these and you may not be able to make another bid because that would probably be forcing or misdescibe your hand even more. If you pass with this hand, it is unlikely to be passed around. So you can bid in the next round and partner will understand your hand. For example, if opponents bid ♥, you may be able to bid 2NT (Unusual NT, what else?). If this ends up with the opponents bidding 5♥, opener will know what is good for your axis. If the ♦s and the ♠s were reversed, it would be a very different matter. I would bid ♠ in the first round rebidding if necessary to show a 6-card suit with few HCPs. The ♦s suit would probably be lost, but who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourdad Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 Funny. You apologize for a double post by making it a triple. I am an idiot!! LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 So how happy will partner be if partner holds a 4=4=2=3 and ends up playing 1 ♣? I'll bid 1 ♠ and pass the next round unless forced to bid again. But part of this is knowing if partner jumps to 2 NT, I'd have Wolff to get us out of the auction at 3 D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodepp Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 If playing a Walsh-style system, you respond 1S almost with impunity. Responder's secondary jump to 3D shows a hand like the thread hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1cha Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 So how happy will partner be if partner holds a 4=4=2=3 and ends up playing 1 ♣?Sometimes very happy because N1♣-4 undoubled beats W4♥=. ;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamijd Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 You can pass or you can bid 1s. Neither is sinful, and either one could work out. Personally, I would bid 1s on this hand, because if you don't, the opponents are likely to find a heart fit, and the next time you get a chance to bid, the auction could be at the 3 or 4 level. Could a 1s bid work out poorly? Sure. If partner has a strong 2416 hand or something similar, your side will end up overboard, maybe badly overboard, and maybe doubled. But on balance the potential gains ought to greatly outweigh the potential losses. As for "trust," you are expected to use your judgment in the bidding, not to slavishly follow rules like a GIB bot. Happy playing,Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmsmith Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 In "All Natural Bidding" first published in 1936 a response of 1N is a must. S Garton Churchill self published two books on bridge without conventions. He was a genius who is little known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 If playing a Walsh-style system, you respond 1S almost with impunity. Responder's secondary jump to 3D shows a hand like the thread hand.This method seems to get pretty high on a potential misfit, and dangerous if partner's 1NT rebid is a weak NT. And if partner's rebid is 2♣ passing seems best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 If I respond 1♦, maybe the worst that can happen is that partner rebids 2N. Of course, if I have something like Wolff Adjunct or transfers available, or if 3♦ is NF, there will be no problem, so let's assume all bids except 3♣ are natural and forcing. Then I'm still fine (at least compared to going a couple off in 1♣) if I can somehow manage to elicit 3♠, 4♦ or even 4♠, from partner, bids that I intend to pass. But how do I do that? Well, the opponents' silence suggests that partner has 4 hearts, so I think there's a very good chance he will cuebid 3♠ if I bid 3♥(!), ostensibly showing 4+ hearts. In the unfortunate event that he bids 3N instead, denying 4 hearts, maybe my best chance is to follow up with 4♥(!), showing 12+, 5+H6+D, intending to pass if partner cuebids 4♠ to unambiguously set hearts as trumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodepp Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 This method seems to get pretty high on a potential misfit, and dangerous if partner's 1NT rebid is a weak NT. And if partner's rebid is 2♣ passing seems best.No question that can happen, but if opener responds 1NT or 2NT you 'know' you have a diamond fit so the danger isn't as bad as it first appears (this is assuming you can get to 3♦ via a Wolff signoff over 2NT). It also sends the message 'stop bidding' when opener reverses into 2♥ (presumably you can lebensohl into 3♦). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all loomis Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Imp , White Vs Red[hv=pc=n&s=sjt972h2dq98762c2&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=1cp?]133|200[/hv] It is often said to believe the partner,however as a partner,sometimes you might not be honest.This is a classic hand.After opening 1♣,your responding 1♠ should promise 5+hcp,if you really respond and once you get a bad result ,I am afraid you maybe lose your partner's trust from now on.However,if you honestly passing,and once you lose the game,I am afraid your partner might think you are a silly precisian and also lost partner's trust.Now,how to make choice? How do you think of it?start by playing a 1c forcing system. precision is good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 start by playing a 1c forcing system. precision is good enough.yes, and all your problems are solved when the auction comes back at you at the 3 level by the opponents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 start by playing a 1c forcing system. precision is good enough.This has very little to do with anything. True, you wouldn't end in 1♣; but that was not going to happen anyway -- but if it did, it might not even be bad. Come to think of it, yeah...let's change our whole system so on this hand we can pass a 1♦ opening that others would open 1♣. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Yu Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 So how happy will partner be if partner holds a 4=4=2=3 and ends up playing 1 ♣? I'll bid 1 ♠ and pass the next round unless forced to bid again. But part of this is knowing if partner jumps to 2 NT, I'd have Wolff to get us out of the auction at 3 D.Opponents are going to balance most of time. Bidding often leads to partner bidding the impossible game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all loomis Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 briggida has blessed you with an easy answer: 1d. then 1s over 1h. but there is nothing wrong with p. 4th chair may rescue, or pd may have 6 c tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted December 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Opponents are going to balance most of time. Bidding often leads to partner bidding the impossible game. Not necessarily. If 2-way stayman and wolff signoff are available,it is easy to stop under 3nt.Please responding 1S,give opener a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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