Jinksy Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 [hv=pc=n&s=st865ht73dkt6c543&n=saq9h952dajck9876]133|200[/hv] S dealer, at MPs. The final contract was 2♦ by north on what, I think, was at least a sane auction, if not necessarily the ideal one. Can you guess how we got there? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhchung Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 1N 2C 2D? edit: oh S dealt. well, I guess what I provided is still possible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted October 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 I guess it was too easy :P I had an interesting question as N, though. With S a passed hand, and us playing an aggressive Garbage Stayman that lets us try for our best major fit on any 44(nn), and a feeling of the impending doom, I seriously thought about passing Stayman. My feeling in the end was that my hand was slightly too good (on the off chance P was inviting), and my Cs slightly too bad. Wondering whether I should have anyway, or was insane even to contemplate it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhchung Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 I guess it was too easy :P I'm really good at bridge :P 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 definitely not a sane auction, sorry. passing stayman would also not have been sane (sorry again). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Passing 2C is not sane. Bidding 2S is at least plausible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted October 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 definitely not a sane auction, sorry. I don't agree with it here, but I don't think it's crazy. If we were in a room full of strong NTers and/or reasonably strong players, then we're virtually guaranteed a bottom if he passes out - at best we'll drift a couple off undoubled, and there's still plenty of time left for them to reopen with a double, have that passed around to P, and then for them to crunch us in whatever suit we end up in (or possibly bid game over it). Stayman would at least spin the wheel, giving us a shot at finding a decent score if I show up with a five card non-club suit or just a suitable Moyesian, or perhaps encouraging the opps to compete to their part score, etc. The actual room seemed like a fairly typical club UK session in the UK, where 90% of the pairs were playing a weak NT and probably wouldn't have found a reopening X, so I don't think Stayman has nearly as much to gain. [ETA it doesn't show the vul here, but we are, so 2 off is MP-doom) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I read an article not long ago, if you had 4 hearts instead of 4 spades 2♣ would be really good MP-wise on a homogeneus field. The fact partner bids 2♥ with 4-4 majors is very important. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Do we have one clown or two? IOW, what is your opening 1nt range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted November 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 The NT was an honest 12-14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tramticket Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 West is a passed hand. You are very unlikely to be faced with a penalty double of 1NT. So your bid does not even have the merit of persuading the opps not to double. With a completely balanced hand, no ruffing values, you have chosen to play a level higher. Even in the unlikely event that you find a fit, 1NT may play better. I see no merit in the 2C bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellSpyder Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 [ETA it doesn't show the vul here, but we are, so 2 off is MP-doom)I'm guessing you weren't 2 off in 2D..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted November 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 West is a passed hand. You are very unlikely to be faced with a penalty double of 1NT. So your bid does not even have the merit of persuading the opps not to double. It is not that hard for a passed hand to X showing some specified hand type in this situation and advancer to pass it out with a smattering of points. With a completely balanced hand, no ruffing values, you have chosen to play a level higher. Even in the unlikely event that you find a fit, 1NT may play better. In a room of strong NTers at MPs, this is basically irrelevant: minus N-hundred will barely score better than minus (N+1)-hundred if N is >= 2 (which it probably is here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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