deep Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 5 Major Diamond 4°tournament machpoint [hv=pc=n&s=saq873haq65d7ca76&d=s&v=n&b=15&a=1s2n4c5c]133|200[/hv]2SA = 5- 5 minorWhat better bid for SouthI think 5 ♦ but i dont know, because 5♦ is cue bid 1° round and i have cuebid 2°round.what i do?ty at all for help me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 6H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 you have a slam drive so you want to ascertain if 7 is making or not. the way to do that is to draw attention to the hearts by bidding 5♥. this will get partner to value the king. you might still not get to 7 though when it's right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesleyC Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 I agree with the other posters that this hand is certainly worth forcing to slam force, and that you should at least suggest bidding 7♠ along the way. Without complex agreements I'd prefer to advance with 6C as an unambiguous grand slam try. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all loomis Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 just bid 6 s's. bidding 7 in a competitive action with singles everywhere does not pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 After 4♣,south should know they have a good 6♠ or 7♠ contract.Save room as possible as,cuebid 5♥,then let partner go on cuebid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 6HHard to construct a hand where hearts will play better than spades here. Even if partner is 4-4 in the majors, I would worry about hearts not breaking well for us. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogs Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 4♣?? What does 4♣ mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 4♣?? What does 4♣ mean?Pretty sure everyone is assuming it is a splinter absent any comment to the contrary. Do you play it differently? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Hard to construct a hand where hearts will play better than spades here. Even if partner is 4-4 in the majors, I would worry about hearts not breaking well for us. Rainer HerrmannReally? How about something not all that tricky, like 5H/3S, where a 4-1 split in spades can be handled by ruffing one spade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 you have a slam drive so you want to ascertain if 7 is making or not. the way to do that is to draw attention to the hearts by bidding 5♥. this will get partner to value the king. you might still not get to 7 though when it's right.Don't mean to be picking on you - when I see a post from you I disagree with, I am just surprised, so feel the need to respond. I like natural slam tries more than most, but even for me 5♥ would just be a cuebid here. Plus I don't think partner needs to be told to upgrade ♥K over minor suit kings in this auction. And isn't 5♥ the bid we'd all make with ♥AKx ♦xx and a slam try? I like the 6♣ cuebid - tells partner to devalue a club void, we will find out about ♦A, and if partner has both major suit kings plus ♦A I think he'll go on over 6♣-6♦-6♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Really? How about something not all that tricky, like 5H/3S, where a 4-1 split in spades can be handled by ruffing one spade?For the rest of us, 4♣ promises short clubs and 4+ spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Don't mean to be picking on you - when I see a post from you I disagree with, I am just surprised, so feel the need to respond. I like natural slam tries more than most, but even for me 5♥ would just be a cuebid here. Plus I don't think partner needs to be told to upgrade ♥K over minor suit kings in this auction. And isn't 5♥ the bid we'd all make with ♥AKx ♦xx and a slam try? I like the 6♣ cuebid - tells partner to devalue a club void, we will find out about ♦A, and if partner has both major suit kings plus ♦A I think he'll go on over 6♣-6♦-6♥. i was mainly wanting to show we don't have the diamond ace, lest partner with something like kq/kj diamonds overvalues them. it's a favourable 2nt overcall so there's plenty of capacity for us to have diamond length and need secondary honours from partner. i do like that 6c will stop partner overbidding a club void, but i was thinking it will frequently go 5h-5s-6c to get both aspects across. oh and you're welcome to pick on me. i frequently talk out of my arse. i've got no problem being pulled up on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 For the rest of us, 4♣ promises short clubs and 4+ spades.4C promises 4+ spades for me, except in competition like this. If you wait around for 4-card spade fits only, you end up with a heck of a lot of ambiguous cue support calls, IMO. With Kxx KJxxx Axxx x, I am supposed to make some ambiguous 3D unusual vs unusual cue? Please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 If you want to try for grand bid 6♣ if partner bids 6♦ we have 7♠ on. I don't see how partner could splinter without Kings on both majors, but even if he misses one of them they are likely onside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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