dickiegera Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 [hv=pc=n&s=skq76h7dkq93ca876&n=s8haq9863d7ckqjt9&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1hp1sp2cp3np4hppp]266|200[/hv] North thinks South should have bid 2♦ 4th suit game forcing after the 2♣ bid and South thinks North should have bid 2 ♥ to show 6 hearts and north should pass 3NT no matter which way it is bid Who is WRONG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monikrazy Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Imps or MP? I prefer 3N to 4SF with S's hand. However, I do think he could improve the auctionthrough some combination of the two actions: 1. Establish a gameforce with his first bid by bidding 2m. 2. Pulling 4H to 5C (at matchpoints this is a harder call) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 North certainly shouldn't bid 2♥ but probably 4♣ is a better call than 4♥. I don't feel strongly about whether S should bid FSF or 3NT but it is good to have this discussion. Agree whether 3NT shows heart tolerance or not, and then both partners stick to their agreement in the future. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo1201 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Both are wrong! But S more :) S (esp. at IMPs) could probe a bit more before committing to 3NT. At matchpoints the bid comes more easily. So N is somehow not too wrong. But S shouldn't blame N for the 2C bid. N was right to bid 2C (but should pull out 3NT to 4C, not 4H). And there is no such thing as a "SYM" 3NT (shut your mouth): N can pull out with undisclosed shape or strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 my opinions in auction order: 1♠ is obvious. 2♣ or 2♦ instead would be just plain wrong.2♣ is obvious. Arguing for 2♥ is silly. 3NT is fine; using 2♦-fsf tends to suggest five spades, seeking a 5-3 fit.Arguing that 3NT bars partner is also silly.North should bid 4♣ instead of 4♥.South should bid 5♣ instead of his final pass. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickiegera Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Imps or MP? I prefer 3N to 4SF with S's hand. However, I do think he could improve the auctionthrough some combination of the two actions: 1. Establish a gameforce with his first bid by bidding 2m. 2. Pulling 4H to 5C (at matchpoints this is a harder call) MP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 How about 4C over 3NT, this shows the 65. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 Suggest1♥ - 2♣3♦ - 4♣ (minorwood)4N - 5♣ I'd almost always choose 2/1 over 1♠ with GF values. The ♠ suit will not get lost. Of the two minors I'll steer toward ♣ even with an inferior suit because it allows more room. Partner will rebid ♦ with 4 in most cases. The splinter 3♦ takes less space too - you might choose 3♠ as the splinter to relieve partner of any distraction if they hold a 4-card ♠ suit.Minorwood (or Redwood) reveals 2 with Q. Stopping in 5 seems straight forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perko90 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 my opinions in auction order: 1♠ is obvious. 2♣ or 2♦ instead would be just plain wrong.2♣ is obvious. Arguing for 2♥ is silly. 3NT is fine; using 2♦-fsf tends to suggest five spades, seeking a 5-3 fit.Arguing that 3NT bars partner is also silly.North should bid 4♣ instead of 4♥.South should bid 5♣ instead of his final pass. 100% agree with every point above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesleyC Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 I disagree with every point both North and South make in the original post. I guess that makes them both wrong? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all loomis Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 [hv=pc=n&s=skq76h7dkq93ca876&n=s8haq9863d7ckqjt9&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1hp1sp2cp3np4hppp]266|200[/hv] North thinks South should have bid 2♦ 4th suit game forcing after the 2♣ bid and South thinks North should have bid 2 ♥ to show 6 hearts and north should pass 3NT no matter which way it is bid Who is WRONG? both, as usual. 1st mistake was using 2/1. 2nd mistake was 1 s. after immediate 2 c response, even 2/1 players will often get to right contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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