Takeout or bidding

[UdcaDenny]

Lets say you open 1♦ playing 2/1 with following hand AQ74 AQ AQ92 765. LHO bids 2♣ followed by 2 pass. I bid 2♠ which my p said was wrong since it promised 5♦. He said a takeoutdouble is a better bid and shows a stronger hand. As p is expected to bid ♥ I prefered to bid ♠. Its a reversebid so I cant see that a takeout shud show a stronger hand. So my question is takeout or 2♠

[mike777]

1) prefer 1nt 16-18 if tht is an option.

2) if not then 1d by x second choice.

 

I assume Mexican 2d not an open option to solve all.

 

you kind of play crappy system so you get crappy options but you know that

[manudude03]

Double does not show a stronger hand. Something like AQxx xxx AQxxx x is an automatic double to cater for partner passing 2C to convert your double for penalties. Having said that, I do prefer double on this occasion, planning on bidding 2S over 2H to show the extras.

[hevnandhel]

Double.

[fromageGB]

As manudude.

[PhilKing]

Depending on the vulnerability, I probably go for "other".

[fromageGB]

Depending on the vulnerability, I probably go for "other".

So what would you suggest in these circumstances, other than X and 2♠?

[zdedo]

I'am facing this type of hands often in the last two weeks and turned to an over bid and bad score

AS GIB 2/1 dbl = 18 hcp so I'll choose this option but the following sequence is a buzzle

if p bid 2♥ should I bid 3♣ cue for 3nt? or just pass hoping for the best

Or p bid 2♠ should I pass or raise to 3 or 4?

when p bids 2nt pass or raise to 3?

[PhilKing]

So what would you suggest in these circumstances, other than X and 2♠?

 

Nothing. I have a balanced hand with defence, and partner could not find a bid over 2♣.

[jodepp]

I agree that bidding 2♠ implies 5+ diamonds.

 

As to what to do with this hand, I suppose double seems obvious, but I could understand a pass at matchpoints.

[dave_beer]

PASS. Partner couldn't make a negative double and didn't bid 2♦. Given my holding in ♣ it is highly unlikely that he is passing if I reopen with double.

 

My second choice is DBL. However I would PASS if he responded 2♥ since his hand is more likely to be worth a few tricks with ♥ as trump and could be worth less in ♠ or ♦.

[mgoetze]

1) prefer 1nt 16-18 if tht is an option.

2) if not then 1d by x second choice.

 

I assume Mexican 2d not an open option to solve all.

 

you kind of play crappy system so you get crappy options but you know that

LOL, advocating 1NT = 16-18 and telling other people their system is crap is quite rich!

[fromageGB]

... but I could understand a pass at matchpoints.

Au contraire, I can understand a pass at IMPs, where there probably no game at stake, but at MPs I reckon that's losing tactics.

[gnasher]

Depending on the vulnerability, I probably go for "other".

At what vulnerabilities would you do something other than "other"? And what non-other action would you choose?

 

I think pass is obvious at any vulnerability and any form of scoring.

[PhilKing]

At what vulnerabilities would you do something other than "other"? And what non-other action would you choose?

 

I think pass is obvious at any vulnerability and any form of scoring.

 

I'd double love all at pairs without too much pain.

[Phil]

I would never pass this out at MPs. 2s just seems wrong since it takes us past 2D.

 

At IMPS it seems like a reasonable shot to hope for six tricks on defense. Game is possible on the right 7 count but it seems you need to find a specific hand That couldn't act over 2C.