biggerclub Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 Let's start assuming no competition: [hv=pc=n&w=shjt86542dat52ct2&e=skj9753hakdkqj74c]266|100[/hv] West dealt. Seeing both hands, it's obvious that the grand in ♦s is cold barring something highly unlikely in one or both red suits, but how to bid it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovera Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 I'm noting (and likeing) that 6-5 is on "fashion" these days (at me it's happened three times). About title i think not and this one can be a demonstration because actual point counting must be up-to-date (helping not as formouled). The hand at dd viewing from E values 31 points and with others controlls we are in grand zone. About bidding : p-2♣, 2♦-2♠, 3♥-4♦, 5♦ and proceding via cue bid you ought to get at grand but probably is better little slam (eventually +1) to avoid a surprise with this type of shape.(Lovera) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 expect to miss grand very often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 I probably bid this: 4♥ P On a really inspired day I might manage 4♥ 4♠5♥ P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinorKid Posted September 27, 2015 Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 Yes LTC is an answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted September 27, 2015 Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 Seeing both hands, it's obvious that the grand in ♦s is cold barring something highly unlikely in one or both red suits, but how to bid it? Am I missing something, red suits are 3-1/1-3 with Q♥ not dropping, can you make 7♦ ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinorKid Posted September 27, 2015 Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 Am I missing something, red suits are 3-1/1-3 with Q♥ not dropping, can you make 7♦ ? Provided trumps were reasonable, why not? Play dummy reversal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted September 27, 2015 Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 Provided trumps were reasonable, why not? Play dummy reversal. Really not seeing this, can you go through it trick by trick please, you can never cash the second heart if they're 3-1 with the Q not dropping and trumps are not 2-2. Even if trumps are 2-2 and hearts 3-1 on a spade lead you lack the entries to set the hearts up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 I might well play in 6H. Partner might be a little disappointed in my trump quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggerclub Posted September 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Really not seeing this, can you go through it trick by trick please, you can never cash the second heart if they're 3-1 with the Q not dropping and trumps are not 2-2. Even if trumps are 2-2 and hearts 3-1 on a spade lead you lack the entries to set the hearts up. A ♠ does appear to scuttle the grand if ♥s are 3-1 (which they were). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 pass (sorry jinksy)1s1n (f)3d some may make a case for 2d but just too much an underbid for me3h gotta show these things sometime might as well start now3s I have 6 don't I?4h Even with the dia fit (which does not have to be a real suit) a 7 bagger major bears repeating6d POC (hearts) it just seems unreasonable for responder to have the exact cards needed for 7 to be right so do not bid 6c looking for 7. There is also the spectre in a heart contract that a club lead might create a heart loser. Nothing in responders bidding points to a dia slam unless opener has a heart fit so the POC should be easy to read. This is a tough decision you KNOW opener has at most a doubleton heart even if HH there might be a problem with a dia ruff or a club lead creating a loser. Yet also tough to imagine making 6 without using the hearts. Overall it just seems like 6d might be better so PASS bidding 7 forgetaboutit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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