mgoetze Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 [hv=pc=n&n=saq63haj7432dcjt3&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=1c2hpp3dp?]133|200[/hv]Now what? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I'll give a try to 3NT, though a club slam should also be on the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I definitely won't just settle for 3N I think we have a super hand for clubs - we may even have grand if p has great cards maybe start with 3h? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I would be very happy with my ace-empty-sixth in hearts, my AQ of spades and my three card support (with two honors ;) ) for partner's 6+ suit. Partner should be happy to play 4♣ if I put ♠xxxx ♥KJxxxx ♦- ♣xxx in the dummy. I am not saying that he will make 4♣ in that case, but it can't possibly be a disaster (as it would be if I were 2-1 in the minors), so he should be able to come close to 10 tricks. And look what I hold: I have two and a half tricks more! And controls! I would simply bid 6♣, playing for a layout like: [hv=pc=n&s=s542hdakq2caq9542&w=sk7hkqt986dj76ck6&n=saq63haj7432dcjt3&e=sjt98h5dt98543c87]399|300[/hv] Rik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I would be very happy with my ace-empty-sixth in hearts, my AQ of spades and my three card support (with two honors ;) ) for partner's 6+ suit. Partner should be happy to play 4♣ if I put ♠xxxx ♥KJxxxx ♦- ♣xxx in the dummy. I am not saying that he will make 4♣ in that case, but it can't possibly be a disaster (as it would be if I were 2-1 in the minors), so he should be able to come close to 10 tricks. And look what I hold: I have two and a half tricks more! And controls! I would simply bid 6♣, playing for a layout like: [hv=pc=n&s=s542hdakq2caq9542&w=sk7hkqt986dj76ck6&n=saq63haj7432dcjt3&e=sjt98h5dt98543c87]399|300[/hv] Rik 2♥ was intermediate? Not that it changes a lot if you give a K to other opponent. 3046 is less likely than 2146 since doubling was an option with former but not with latter. 6-5 is much more likely than others for this bid. I am not against slam of course. I know it is hard to investigate. Because we first have to tell pd trump is clubs in a forcing way. Even this alone will put us too high to investigate anything. After that pd will have to bid himself, or if we are going to do it it will not be different than we are doing it now. Tuff hand to deal with. I am sure at the table I would cue and then bid 5♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrei Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 6♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 3♥ can't be wrong. It can't be so useful either, but certainly not wrong. For example partner can easilly bid 3NT and we can reopen with 4♣ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 It seems like new 3♥ should be a NT probe/cue for clubs to me. If we're min, we pass with D preference and bid 4C with C preference. So 4♦ is the cheapest forcing suit-setting bid, meaning, by our meta-agreements at least, that cues are for the other suit in contention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 6c It will take a ton of delicacy to allow us to not only makes clubs trumps but find out if p has a heart void (vs rho which would make holding the Ace a mirage) so any search for 7 is most likely a doomed prospect. Even if p knows you have the heart ace they cannot appreciate the fact that their singleton heart is fool's gold. I have so much more offensive potential than p could ever realize after my initial pass and if we do not have good play for 6c (even if rho doubles the initial heart lead) it is most likely only because opener overbid with 3d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Rik, please undo this 3♦ bid! There might be children watching! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted September 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Rik, please undo this 3♦ bid! There might be children watching!Heh, indeed Rik's proposed 3♦ seems a bit light/off-shape. When this hand came up (I was actually generating hands to test Transfer Lebensohl methods), South actually had a 2056 shape, I believe it was xx - AKQJx AKxxxx, and 7♣ was on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 Heh, indeed Rik's proposed 3♦ seems a bit light/off-shape. When this hand came up (I was actually generating hands to test Transfer Lebensohl methods), South actually had a 2056 shape, I believe it was xx - AKQJx AKxxxx, and 7♣ was on. Off shape? YesLight? Hell no! Just take a spade and put in ♦ and this hand is more than enough for 3♦ It does not have to be a HOLLY ***** hand as you constructed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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