glen Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 I find the "dozen or so" a vast understatement, given the scope of the 3 pairs cheating. The amount of medals that need to be redistributed is staggering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted September 19, 2015 Report Share Posted September 19, 2015 The cases so far really rest on video evidence. It is theoretically possible to catch someone statistically, but in practice allowing this as formal "proof" will be disaster for the bridge community. Disagree 100%. Any pair cheating as blatantly on opening leads as F-S or the doctors could easily be caught if we had large enough data sets. There are just a number of caveats:The statistical analysis has to be quite sophisticated (I can think of a number of factors on has to control for).One needs large reliable data sets of many hands including both the auction and the opening lead. (This could of course be taken care of with an electronic playing environment that some BBF poster has been arguing for since many years ago.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 A first step could be to put a flat-screen on each side of the screen and display the the bids made and the cards played.This would eliminate all kinds of placing the cards or finger signals.Using bidding cards and decks with RFID chips and putting detectors on the table should be no problem. So you could keep the tactile aspect and still get a perfect electronic record. This record could even record a timestamp so you could analyze variation in timing. Statistical analysis of all deals played at top level would provide data about what range of deviation can be considered usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 Be careful HotShot, your sample data might contain more cheaters than you expect :) I am shocked that so many top players oppose, its like, what are they scared off?I think this is just natural protection. They are on top, even closer to the very top since 2 pairs above them are gone, and they don't want changes.It might be that I am biased and since I am not yet on one of the big teams I want things to change and maybe climb a bit more. I really doubt that "card feeling" is really what they oppose to, it sounds like a childish excuse to me. I bet many have other selfish reasons.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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