gszes Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 4n Sometimes cue bids are used improperly and I feel this is one of those cases. If p can show me 3 key cars I will bid 6 else I am signing off in 5. The bidding makes it seem obvious p doe not have too many values wasted in hearts and my shortness is a great asset in that case. Slam appears to easily be in reach opposite all but the worst imaginable 3s bids. If there are any finesses to be taken they will be taken through LHO (the one that bid 2h) and if any squeeze/throw-in needs to be applied LHO would seem ripe since they rate to hold the vast majority of the opps power. Many many positives it seems only a tiny amount of negatives my kind of guess:) OH and opposite Wank's partner forget about all this and sign off because they always overbid:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogs Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 If you're willing to bid pass 4♠, try 5♣. 6♠ may fail where 6♣ makes. ♠ AKxx ♥ xx ♦ Qx ♣ AKxxx or ♠ AKxx ♥ xxx ♦ x ♣ AKxxx Spades break 4-1 and clubs break 3-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 It just feels like you need too much for 6S here. Partner needs to cover 4 black suit losers and one red suit loser. Your shape just gives you too many losers, even though you will also have lots of winners eventually. This means that its pretty easy to construct hands where you are just off too many tricks. AKxx xxx x AKxxx would give you slam on a 3-2 spade break, but KJxx KQx x AJxxx needs luck to make 5 spades. If I had AKJx xxx x AKxxx to make slam cold I would have bid more than 3S. The problem is that your partner was under pressure already, Axxx Kxx x AKxxx looks like a pretty great hand over 2H to me, much too good to put in along side a weak nt with 4 spades. An easy 3S, and 5S is like 30%. Then again, I would try for slam trivially if I could do so below game though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 I don't think we are worth a slam try. We have weak, short trumps, and our diamond honours are likely opposite relative shortness. Partner made the second weakest raise available to him. He could have bid 3H or 4S, to show, respectively, a powerhouse (not yet promising spades) or a very good playing hand with values and shape. 3S is invitational to game. It is not forcing to game, so slam is 3 levels beyond the level to which he forced us, and this hand isn't three tricks better than he played us for. Especially with these trumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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