Order the possible leads

[Jinksy]

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IMPs. How do you rate the leads by suit from best to worst? (noting in chat if you'd deviate from the normal pip)

[gszes]

An odd poll at best it almost makes it seem that any other lead than a heart has some sort of merit. Maybe better would be ask what % players would assign to a spade heart dia or club lead and the final solution might more closely resemble reality than merely choosing 1234. For ex: I would rate a heart 98% Spade 1.5% dia .5% and club 0%. Note that the other 3 would really never get any serious consideration. Doing the poll this way is sort of like asking which player would you rather have as a partner 1. Benito Garozzo or 2. Gszes. The two players do not even belong in the same conversation and trust me gszes would be more than happy stating that he came in second behind Benito Garozzo (even if it meant leaving out some important details) in a partnership poll:)

[KurtGodel]

If we are in a partnership where you can double their bids with Txxxx and partner couldn't find a double of either 2♦ or 2♠ then it might just be plausible to lead a club. IRL I would just lead a heart like a human being.

[mgoetze]

If we are in a partnership where you can double their bids with Txxxx and partner couldn't find a double of either 2♦ or 2♠ then it might just be plausible to lead a club. IRL I would just lead a heart like a human being.

Do you believe the meanings of doubles by East and West should be absolutely symmetric in this auction? If so, why?

[wank]

A club for me. A heart seems pointless after partner didn't raise our psyche.

[Jinksy]

Would appreciate it if someone is willing to sim this. I have a bet with Mgoetze on the result (though parameters might be tricky to choose sensibly, since P's had two opportunities to double and one to raise hearts).

[Zelandakh]

Would appreciate it if someone is willing to sim this.

How can this be simmed without knowing the meaning of 2♠? Just because it was forced after a pass does not mean it is meaningless after a double.

[Jinksy]

I don't think it was an established partnership, so the meaning of 2♠ was probably 'I remember that we're playing Kokish P, and this will hopefully avoid confusion resulting from my pass'. I suppose it suggests nothing much in hearts that would allow a natural XX.