Vampyr Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 This is like a bad dream. Donald Trump was right, actually about the election being rigged -- by the FBI. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Ok our ass is being kicked badly so far.Oh well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 "Alexa, book me a one-way ticket to Canada". I laughed at this ad. As I sit scared sh!tless..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 "Alexa, book me a one-way ticket to Canada". I laughed at this ad. As I sit scared sh!tless..... This is way closer than I had hoped. However, it looks as if VA is holding. PA should as well... To me, the really scary thing is how successful both sides were at mobilizing their vote and how polarized things are. No matter who wins, we're in for some real ugliness... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonottawa Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Hope everyone else is enjoying this glorious evening as much as I am! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Some more than others.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Michigan hangs in the balance and could be decisive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonottawa Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I wonder if the MSM is still making it seem close just to avoid looking so foolish or because they want people to keep watching. The fat lady has sung. http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Az is going DT. No need for hanging chads this time in Fla but it is still very close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 This is not going well. Well, not from my view. Bedtime for me, perhaps a miracle will occur while I sleep. I have always wished for the best for every president, and I am too old to change that now. But I am not happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Ok our ass is being kicked badly so far.Oh well...Your signature block has never been so appropriate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Funny you ask, because I've made these positions well known in another group and am still considered an alt-right wing nut. I consider "right" to be the ideology put forth by conservatives. I'm lumped in that group because I am in favor of small government, people's power > states' power > federal power, few regulations, and the idea that those who work and/or innovate should be rewarded, and that the Constitution should be interpreted the way our Founding Fathers would be expected to interpret it, and the whole idea of government "taking care of people" is not at all appealing to me. (Yes, I see the contradiction - I support UBI because I feel automation will make it so that there aren't enough jobs to go around; but the UBI level should be low enough such that those that never work are going to have a fairly low standard of living.) I consider "left" to be the ideology put forth by progressives. thank you for your response. Your response is muddled at best and at worst meaningless. Please read what you post. my point is left or right at best is meaningless so feel free to claim whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Went to bed confident of Trexit. Never thought I would wake up to Clexit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 at midnight it looks like my prediction of clinton with 350 is not best, 538 with 302 is not best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I hope i posted this before but in any case I wanted to repost it before any election results just so I am on record: " demagogue /ˈdɛməɡɒɡ/ (from Greek δημαγωγός, a popular leader, a leader of a mob, from δῆμος, people, populace, the commons + ἀγωγός leading, leader)[1] or rabble-rouser is a leader in a democracy who gains popularity by exploiting prejudice and ignorance among the common people, whipping up the passions of the crowd and shutting down reasoned deliberation.[1][2][3][4] Demagogues have usually advocated immediate, violent action to address a national crisis while accusing moderate and thoughtful opponents of weakness or disloyalty. Demagogues violate established rules of political conduct; most who were elected to high office changed their democracy into some form of dictatorship. Demagogues have appeared in democracies since ancient Athens. They exploit a fundamental weakness in democracy: because ultimate power is held by the people, nothing stops the people from giving that power to someone who appeals to the lowest common denominator of a large segment of the population." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 What we just saw happen is absolutely horrific. I fear that the results of this election will have a profound and lasting negative effect on this country and this planet. I am genuinely worried about the potentially for a major war in the middle east, a catastrophic acceleration in global warming, and a world wide recession. (Not to mention the absolutely tragic human cost for so many people who live in this country). Through the Supreme Court, the impacts of this decision will be felt for generations to come. The best that we can do is not to look for ways to make things worse. Refusing to recognize the results of the election would do just that. Ultimately, the process is more important than either of the two candidates. Time to pick ourselves up, hope that nothing too catastrophic happens in the next four years, and muddle through the best that we can. I know that things are going to suck. I know that things are going to be much much worse for a whole bunch of people who don't look like me. I'm very sorry for what many of you are about to go through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrei Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I thought I read it here that this election was over a long time ago. LMFAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onoway Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 The answer to the thread title is , unfortunately, yes. Going to be a scary time for the next four years, maybe longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onoway Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 "Alexa, book me a one-way ticket to Canada". I laughed at this ad. As I sit scared sh!tless.....Canada Immigration and citizenship site crashed tonight about two hours after results started coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I just want to point out that, in the most important news of this morning, England are 174-3 against India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I just want to point out i predict: 1) war in the middle east2) global warning3) recession feel free to blame trump or reps....now IN fact I expect posters some posters to blame today i go on record tht posters predict above....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I cannot imagine this going well. I make no specific prediction. If I were to make a prediction, I cannot imagine what a good one would be. It will take me a while to absorb this. For the moment, there seems to be nothing else to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Now what? First we grieve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Now what? First we grieve. Yes. But we also must accept. And Hillary Clinton must give, as soon as at all possible, a concession speech. She must. It need not be long. It must clearly concede that the election is over, and it must express her best wishes for the country that has chosen her opponent. This is really important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Until my dying day, my deep and abiding regret will be that there is no way to contain this contagion to the those segments of the population who just dug us into this hole. A small majority of the American people just placed this country and the whole world on a much much worse long term path and they will suffer for it. Sadly, a whole bunch of other folk are being dragged along for the ride. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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