Winstonm Posted August 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 The Case against Jim Jordan. Over the course of the past year, congressman Jim Jordan (R-OH), the ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee, has engaged in a systematic effort to cast doubt on the integrity of the 2020 U.S. presidential election. He also led efforts to create an image in the minds of Trump supporters of Jan. 6 as the "ultimate date of significance" (his words, repeated several times). He helped spearhead the effort to oppose certification of the election in Congress. He has continued to promote the "Big Lie" even after the events on Jan. 6 and subsequent FBI and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) warnings that this conspiracy is propelling domestic violent extremists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepossum Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 What do you mean by "left"? I ask that in all sincerity since here in the U.S.A. it has been the religious right that has most contravened devotion to education. Its just my rather jaundiced view of some supposedly progressive elements over the last few generations seeming intent on destroying quality education and reducing it to the lowest common denominator. People who frown on the concept of quality and elitism in anything. Seemingly some of them were in parts of the left. Not all. Some still value intellectual discourse and quality education and knowledge. As I said, a lifetimes experience observing and experiencing some of those attitudes first hand. These days if you even try to have a critical analytical look at anything, to challenge anything you usually get labelled as ignorant and/or silenced by some of those so-called progressives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 Four weeks in Real America [Kerrville, Texas] was a reminder that in most of the country people experience a level of drunk driving risk (both as drunk drivers but also just as people on the road) that feels insane to me, whereas they think I live with a terrifying amount of murder risk [DC]. I feel pretty confident that if you run the numbers, I am right about this and they are wrong but part of society functioning is we kind of let people disagree without turning everything into a knock-down fight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 The U.S.A. is in a world of trouble if this lady is right. Religious fanaticism, these men and women told me, was not driving their friends and cousins into the arms of the extremist Taliban. Indignation at their government's corruption was—and at Americans' role in enabling it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilowsky Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 The U.S.A. is in a world of trouble if this lady is right. I heard the same thing from Persian friends after the US involvement in supporting the Shah.Sometimes doing things in the national interest of the USA isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 I heard the same thing from Persian friends after the US involvement in supporting the Shah.Sometimes doing things in the national interest of the USA isn't. Yes, but back then there wasn't half the U.S. in support of a coup d'etat against their own newly elected lawful government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilowsky Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 Yes, but back then there wasn't half the U.S. in support of a coup d'etat against their own newly elected lawful government. Quite the opposite. I still recall the NSA at the time (whose daughter is now half of a popular news/opinion show) being reported as saying something to the effect of:Well, we don't know much about Ayatollah Khomanei but how bad can he be? After all, he is a Cleric. I'm reminded of George C Scott's General Buck Turgidson in Dr Strangelove:"General Turgidson, when you instituted the human reliability tests, you assured me there was no possibility of such a thing ever occurring.""Well, I don't think it's quite fair to condemn the whole program because of a single slip up sir." http://bit.ly/OneSlipUpStrangelove They couldn't stop the bombers because CRM114 prevents communication - clearly, Kubrick had experienced CRM problems of his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 Quite the opposite. I still recall the NSA at the time (whose daughter is now half of a popular news/opinion show) being reported as saying something to the effect of:Well, we don't know much about Ayatollah Khomanei but how bad can he be? After all, he is a Cleric. I'm reminded of George C Scott's General Buck Turgidson in Dr Strangelove:"General Turgidson, when you instituted the human reliability tests, you assured me there was no possibility of such a thing ever occurring.""Well, I don't think it's quite fair to condemn the whole program because of a single slip up sir." http://bit.ly/OneSlipUpStrangelove They couldn't stop the bombers because CRM114 prevents communication - clearly, Kubrick had experienced CRM problems of his own. My favorite quote from that movie is "There's no fighting in the war room." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 What do you mean by "left"? I ask that in all sincerity since here in the U.S.A. it has been the religious right that has most contravened devotion to education.The problem is that the sides don't agree on what a "quality education" is. What each wing thinks is improvement is considered corruption by the others. Religious fundamentalists thought they were saving kids' souls when they prosecuted Scopes for teaching evolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 The problem is that the sides don't agree on what a "quality education" is. What each wing thinks is improvement is considered corruption by the others. Religious fundamentalists thought they were saving kids' souls when they prosecuted Scopes for teaching evolution. That is a good point, but how do you argue with this? William Lane Craig, Ph.D (so his own opinions sound expert) and Christian apologist: "Should a conflict arise between the witness of the Holy Spirit to the fundamental truth of the Christian faith and beliefs based on argument and evidence then it is the former which must take precedence over the latter." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 A divided U.S. Supreme Court rejected the Biden administration’s rescinding of a Trump-era immigration policy concerning asylum seekers entering from the border with Mexico. The court left in force a ruling requiring the resumption of a process, halted in June, that has forced almost 70,000 people to remain in Mexico while their applications are processed.Sure the Supreme Court is aware that it can’t actually order the government of Mexico to comply with MPP just because they feel like it, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 Pelosi has just demonstrated, once again, that she is the most accomplished House Speaker in US history. (I have posted in the past that I think it is time for her to step down. I was glad to have her there today) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 Bloomberg said: A divided U.S. Supreme Court rejected the Biden administration's rescinding of a Trump-era immigration policy concerning asylum seekers entering from the border with Mexico. The court left in force a ruling requiring the resumption of a process, halted in June, that has forced almost 70,000 people to remain in Mexico while their applications are processed. Matt Yglesias said: Sure the Supreme Court is aware that it can't actually order the government of Mexico to comply with MPP just because they feel like it, right? Myself, I'm wondering if this SCOTUS sleeps on My Pillows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 Myself, I'm wondering if this SCOTUS sleeps on My Pillows? Just 6 of them. I'll leave it to the reader to figure out which 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilowsky Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 I'm very unhappy to report that I share a birthday with Mike Lindell - and Elon Musk . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterAlan Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 I'm very unhappy to report that I share a birthday with Mike Lindell - and Elon Musk .You think that's a problem? I have a twin brother. His birthday is the day before mine. He shares his with Donald Trump; I share mine with Xi Jinping. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilowsky Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 On the plus side, along with 6/6, it is a 'perfect' birthday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 Trump Suggests Osama bin Laden Wasn’t a ‘Monster’: He Only Had ‘One Hit’ On the same morning that at least 12 U.S. service members were killed in a bloody terror attack in Kabul, former President Donald Trump suggested Osama bin Laden wasn’t a big deal and only “had one hit.” Calling into conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt’s show on Thursday morning, Trump doubled down on his recent claims that the Taliban wouldn’t have quickly taken over Afghanistan following American troop withdrawal if he were still in charge. (Trump negotiated the original peace deal with the Taliban in February 2020, which included a May 1 withdrawal date and the release of 5,000 Taliban prisoners.) Bin Laden was hunted down and killed by the Obama administration in 2011, nearly a decade into the ongoing War on Terror. And despite Trump essentially calling bin Laden a one-hit wonder, the terror mastermind also carried out the U.S. Embassy bombings in 1998 and the deadly USS Cole attack in 2000 which resulted in hundreds of casualties. The Manchurian President must have been channeling his inner Kayleigh McEnany who has been making a recent run to become the biggest liar in the USA. Having a woman challenging the former Mysogynist in Chief for America's Biggest Liar title must have shaken Individual-1 which prompted him to branch out to new areas of lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 A group founded by a Capitol riot defendant is prescribing an unproven COVID-19 treatment, ivermectin, through a telemedicine site for $90 a pop America's Frontline Doctors, whose founder, Dr. Simone Gold, has been charged in the Capitol riot, is offering $90 telehealth consultations to prescribe unproven treatments for COVID-19. As of Thursday night, selecting ivermectin prompted a message saying, "Unfortunately due to the national shortage of Ivermectin, at the current time ivermectin is unavailable for treatment," adding that hydroxychloroquine was an "alternative option." Neither medication has been endorsed by US public-health authorities as COVID-19 treatments, but both have been promoted against the recommendations of public-health officials. Ivermectin, an antiparasitic drug commonly used to treat worms in horses and cows, is the latest unproven treatment to take hold in some online circles. The Food and Drug Administration said last week that it had received reports about patients who were hospitalized after "self-medicating with ivermectin intended for horses," urging people to stop. I do not recall if I am speaking from personal experience, but if you don't have an extra $90 to get this prescription, you can get ivermectin for free if you "visit" a farm late at night and do some cow tipping before the cows get a chance to eat their medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 Is anyone else getting fed up with the inordinate amount of media coverage this twice impeached loser is receiving? I’m mad as hell and I won’t take it anymore! Attica! Attica! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 Sure the Supreme Court is aware that it can't actually order the government of Mexico to comply with MPP just because they feel like it, right? Ohhh Matt! Of course the Supreme Court can tell Mexico what to do. Mexico is easy. Where were you when Mexico built that wall just because Manchurian Candidate Trump said they were going to build the wall in a campaign speech? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepossum Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 The problem is that the sides don't agree on what a "quality education" is. What each wing thinks is improvement is considered corruption by the others. Religious fundamentalists thought they were saving kids' souls when they prosecuted Scopes for teaching evolution. A fundamental of quality education that most sides seem to have forgotten is training the mind to ask questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 RIP, Roe vs Wade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted September 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 RIP, Roe vs Wade. The reason we no longer have to fight in Afghanistan is because the Taliban moved to Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 The reason we no longer have to fight in Afghanistan is because the Taliban moved to Texas. And all the other red states. It's way past time for letting Red America secede from the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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