eagles123 Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Matchpoints 3rd in favourable opps aren't great but lefty is considerably better than righty two passes to you 7543256AQJT86 you play 2/1 3 weak 2 cheers Eagles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Call me primitive but I pass. -5 card spades on the side is way too much for me to open 3♣.-1♣ opening is not even a lead director.-My hand perfectly fits in the definition of a pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 I will bid 3♣, giving up on 4♠, since I can't see any sensible way to get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 3c Not much defense p is a passed hand and aiming for spades is a super small tiny window to worry about. It is all too easy for the opps to have game if not slam and at the very worst 3c is a decent lead director. Passing under these conditions is a head-in-the-sand philosophy:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 I open 3♣. In third seat after 2 passes, my goal is to disrupt the opps as much as possible without sticking my neck out too far. 3♣ accomplishes this. It is not my goal to find the best possible contract, but rather the best contract possible. Could we have a spade fit? Sure we could. But it is impractical to look for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 I'm now thinking that given all the people voting for 3♣, I should probably have said 4♣. I have a reputation to uphold :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo1201 Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 I'm not supposed to have a side 4c-M when opening 3m but I'm in 3rd and 5432 are so tiny vs my AQJT876. Oops I messed up again with those black pips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Matchpoints 3rd in favourable opps aren't great but lefty is considerably better than righty. two passes to you♠ 7 5 4 3 2 ♥ 5 ♦ 6 ♣ A Q J T 8 6you play 2/1 3 weak 2 I rank3♣ = PRE. ♠ holding no bar to 3rd-seat pre-empt.Pass = NAT. Gives opponents a lot of exploration room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 3C, with 1C also considered. 1C leaves options, and a HCP misdirection may be as effective as a preempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 An ex-partner long ago tried 4S with this sort of a hand (mixing up a suggestion about what to do with a good 6 card major and weak 5 card minor). Easy +420. Partner's a world champion now, so who am I to argue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echo25 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Spades are too weak to show, as lead in this suit is not what we'd like to got. I understand 3c, but if the opponents have unbalanced hands, it won't stop them from finding the game in hearts. That's why I would bid 1h. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 1S. Why should a 3rd seat opening be lead directing? 3C is a really silly opening with 5S as well. Second choice is pass, but I like to get in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 4C 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 4CWe knew that vote. Unfortunately, I am systemically barred from 4♣, so would have to settle for 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted August 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 4C looks like you're going to have to change your vote to 5c now, Jinksy :P btw this hand was from a couple of weeks ago I opened 3c fwiw I was just thinking about it yesterday for some reason full hand for those interested:https://app.pianola.net/Results/Session54853/Travellers/25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Call me primitive but I pass. -5 card spades on the side is way too much for me to open 3♣.-1♣ opening is not even a lead director.-My hand perfectly fits in the definition of a pass. Really? I have an agreement with partner that a 3rd seat 1♣ opener that is revealed to be weak later in the auction is most often a strong lead indicator, otherwise why bother. You haven't impeded their bidding and with marginal standard openings and poor clubs we can choose a decent 4-card major. Works out most of the time. I can't stand to pass at these colors or to miss spades at mp's so 1♣ for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 looks like you're going to have to change your vote to 5c now, Jinksy :P I might make an exception to my 'bid one more than everyone else' rule for an aggressive Bermuda Bowl finalist :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodepp Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 When it comes to 3rd seat preempts, the only rule is 'there are no rules.'. You can pretty much do whatever you want, so a theoretically questionable bid becomes desirable if you think it rates to grant a tactical advantage. The example hand is certainly an odd one. In all honesty I think I would try 4♣ (IMPs or matchpoints). Counting losers this is 'ballpark'. I'll have another guess to make if the opponents get to 4♥ (how they get there affects my choice) but for now I'll try to buy (read: 'steal') it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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